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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Well accuro--it seems that we are neighbors.
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accuro
MUSA Resident Joined: May 31 2009 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
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There are remedies to the points raised above. Firstly, Ms. Moon, I applaud your efforts and impetus to protect historic interests. I do however feel after reading the city ordinance, I'm sure it supports a plausible argument the landmark at the cemetary has been determined or so named as historically significant. I'm sure the O.R.C. does a better job no?
As for the Highlands district, it obviously is an overly zealous effort by Mr. Kohler to protect the interests of the docs, and others around that area and if they can secure low interst grants, loans, that's not going to sit well with others who also have nice homes. I know of at least one new construction near Dan Ward in that area. The biger question is why did only 3 show up to support it, and no one that had objection did? Were there no notifcations? I want my Williamsburg replication cul de sac to be named "Antrim Estates District" in honor of the road taking golfers to St. Andrews as Mr. Kohler seems partial to Scottish landmarks. Or, perhaps it could be called the Downing District. For those in opposition, it could easily be brought down by council. If I read the ordidance correctly, I assume the vault has not been named a landamrk. Then, the question becomes, how does it become a landmark. Do you need signatures or a motion by counil. Once you establish that, then its a landamrk of significance. Would that not be an easier route to take? At this juncture, I doubt if you'd have the votes to have it named a landmark on council. |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Mike
The answer to your question is:Mr. Kohler and Sam Ashworth decide what is historic and worthy to be saved in this town.If it is "historic" and located downtown it is worthy to be saved and millions of dollars can be spent...if it is located on First Ave it is just an old cemetery with an old shed that needs to torn down..Hmmmm
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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There is a CONDO on Riverview that was owned by George M. Verity, whose achievements equaled those of Mr. Hook and the others mentioned by SWohio75. Mr. Verity also served as Secretary of Commerce. Can we make a large area around Riverview an "Historic District"???
Jerry Lucas's boyhood home was in the 2200 block of Grand Avenue. Perhaps that should be a "Historic District"???
One could go on and on!!!
The question still remains about why the ORIGINAL wing of Middletown Hospital, without a doubt the MOST historic structure in Mr. Michel's area, was allowed to be demolished before the "historic religion" began to be preached.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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swohio75
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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Bobbie - Here are just a few:
A lot of homes in this new district were owned by some of Middletown’s most prominent industrial and business leaders—at the local, state and national level. For example: 7 Alameda Circle was built around 1915 by Charles R Hook, who was Chairman of ARMCO. Hook was married to the daughter of ARMCO’s founder, George M. Verity. In addition to his career at ARMCO, Hook was also instrumental in helping to establish Junior Achievement as a national organization. Indeed, the national organization has an annual award named after him-it is actually the organization’s highest honor. This was taken from a press release: The Hook Award is named after Charles R. Hook, an industrialist who served as president and chairman of Junior Achievement during the 1940s and 1950s. Under Hook’s leadership, Junior Achievement grew from a regional program in the northeastern U.S. into a national organization. Hook also served as president of the National Association of Manufacturers, chairman of National Bible Association, trustee of America’s Future, Inc. and on the Board of Directors of several companies Finally, Hook as been named on the 20th Century’s Great American Business Leaders by the Harvard Business School. http://www.hbs.edu/leadership/database/leaders/charles_r_hook.html You can read more about Charles R Hook. His biography is titled “The Human Touch in Business.” Another ARMCO Chairman, Logan T. Johnson, lived on McGee. Jeff Michel’s home on Florence belonged to yet another ARMCO official, Middletown native W. W. Sebald, who served as President and Vice Chairman. The Aull/Driscoll families owned several homes in the districts as well. The Aull/Driscolls were loosely connected to the Sorg family. Grace Aull was married to Paul A. Sorg, son of Paul J. Sorg. He died at a young age, and the couple did not have any children. Grace inherited the Sorg Paper Company, and the Aull side of her family (later Driscolls) would run and control the Sorg Paper Company before it was sold to a national company. Yet another home was owned by Ames Gardner who was part of the Gardner family, who owned a major paper concern in Middletown. The homeowners are working hard to collect their individual stories. These are just the few that I know. I fully support their efforts to preserve this part of Middletown’s history. |
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Merrell Wood
MUSA Resident Joined: Mar 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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So Vivian, So in your opinion, what clause in the A to J requirements for historical preservation are credible vs. not?
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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CHAPTER 1210: HISTORIC PRESERVATION The City hereby declares as a matter of public policy that the preservation, protection, perpetuation and use of areas, places, structures, works of art or similar objects having a special historical or aesthetic interest or value are a public necessity and are required in the interest of the health, prosperity, safety and welfare of the people. (Webster Dictionary – necessity – 1. the state or fact of being inevitable or necessary. 2. something essential, esp. to existence. 3. poverty; great need. 4. compulsion.) (a) Preserve and protect the heritage of the City by delineating structures, sites and areas that reflect the City’s cultural, social, economic and architectural history; (b) Stabilize and improve property values; (c) Protect and enhance the City’s attractions to residents, tourists and visitors, and to encourage business and industry; (d) Foster civic pride in the beauty and notable accomplishments of the past; (e) Strengthen the economy of the City; (f) Protect and enhance the visual and aesthetic character, diversity and interest in the City; (g) Promote the use and preservation of historic sites and structures for the education and general welfare of the residents of the City; (h) Safeguard the property rights of the owners whose property is declared to be an historic site or is located in an area designated as an historic district; (i) Develop appropriate settings for designated historic sites or historic districts; and (j) Establish a Council on Landmarks and Historic Districts. (Ord. O91‑19, passed 3‑5‑1991) |
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Nelson Self
MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 17 2009 Status: Offline Points: 144 |
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Mr. Armbruster -
I'm told that the Historic Pioneer Cemetery is situated in Ward 1. If that be true, why is it that you fail to say anything relevant (or say anything at all) about the Historic Pioneer Cemetery?? You have had opportunities to put a halt to the One Donham Plaza pork that eminates from this rendering plant that the bureaucrats occupy!!
Gary Barge -
Congratulations once again. I sincerely request that you ask questions of Mr. Armbruster regarding this and other matters that he's been involved with as the current City Councilman!!
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Nelson Self
MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 17 2009 Status: Offline Points: 144 |
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Miss Vivian -
You are being punished by senior City of Middletown staff for failing to defer to these almighty bureaucrats. You rightfully informed us about the Historic Pioneer Cemetery and they are incensed because you uttered even one word in this respect.
You failed to pull out your prayer rug six times daily to get on your knees and pray in the direction of One Donham Plaza.
May the revenge of Middletown's pioneers be similar to that of the deceased in the movie 'Poltergeist.' Watch out elitists!
Save the Historic Pioneer Cemetery and vote down further wasteful practices like paving selected alleyways, wasting thousand of additional dollars on the 'Dollar Homes'. building bike paths for a handful of enthusiasts, buying playground equipment for unspecified locations and purposes, hiring more Community Revitalization Department staff and (UNOFFICIALLY) transferring employees there from other duties, etc., etc.
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Bobbie
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 05 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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Personally I do not see it as a historical district at all. Does anyone know of any historical events or reasons that it should be classified Historical District.
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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I just love it when all these people talk about saving historic buildings (their own) and the history of Middletown when they can’t even save the cemetery that was established in 1827. How was Sam Ashworth able to vote on this since he lives in this district?
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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EXACTLY what is it that this "new" historic distric has, that nearly EVERY OTHER neighborhood in Middletown does not have???
They've already allowed the TRULY HISTORIC original wing of the hospital to be demolished without a peep!!! THAT was the MOST HISTORIC thing around there!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Nelson Self
MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 17 2009 Status: Offline Points: 144 |
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I agree with 'The Weaver.' Why not revitalize the former Middletown Regional Hospital property with mixed-income rental housing. Utilize architecturally compatible designs so that the NIMBY residents of the Highlands Historic District will not object to this new construction. What do you think about that Sammie??
If lower-income rental housing is good for other areas of Middletown, it is also good for the S. Main Street and Highlands Historic districts too! Maybe those of you having close personal contact with senior City of Middletown staff can get an allocation of HUD Neighborhood Stabilization Program (NSP) funds for this purpose??
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Kelly
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Aug 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 47 |
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Funny stuff Weaver! Give Jeffy time - he'll toot his own horn on this subject high from that 400K+ home he's living in. Jeffy is doing it for the people! The man on the street! Yes, the man on Florence Street. Let the people decide! Jeffy's patriotic! We like that! Jeffy's tells it like it is! We like that! Jeffy's invited to "chat" on middletownusa...oh...Jeffy doesn't like that...too many on musa don't like the good ol boys, right Virtus??...It's scary in there without a cover!!!
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THE WEAVER
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Aug 18 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Should Jeff Michel be nominated for Middletowns next elected Mayor?. He has beeen here 3 and 1/2 years and seems to have a lot going for him! 1. To do away with the Ward system. Now he is pushing Highlands Historic District, which will qualify them for HUD and CDBG Funds, and suggest a Lake be built upon the Hill to hekp Beautify the Landmark Area.
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