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wasteful
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"I will guarantee a return to these types of conditions if union activity is ceased."
About 22 States are "Right to Work States" I don't hear about sweat shops and early 20th Century conditions in any of them. Why Not?
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Thanks for posting that wasteful. Apperantly Ohio has gone from a right to work to forced unionism since I was a member. I'll have to explore that a little deeper.
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Theres no denying the roles that unions have played in those three states ! Early in the 20th century the mob ran most unions in NY. And I'm sure unions in California were controlled by some type of organized crime recruiting crop workers. Evolution is the key in those three states. Plus you have to look at the relationship of politicians to unions to really get a grasp on things.
Again,if you want to see the working conditions of the early 20th century then ban all union's or union activity. I will guarantee a return to these types of conditions if union activity is ceased.
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wasteful
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Hermes Ohio is a "Forced-Unionism Stated".
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wasteful
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Compulsory Unionism Bankrupting States: Workers Flee to Right to Work States for JobsWed, 07/01/2009 - 12:15 — Anthony RiedelAs the current economic downturn continues, many states across the nation are starting to find it increasingly difficult to stay afloat after having capitulated to the union bosses' extortionate demands. Last week, the Wall Street Journal cited the National Institute for Labor Relations Research (NILRR) -- an anti-compulsory unionism think tank that exposes the harm forced unionism inflicts on workers -- when discussing Big Labor's contribution toward the severe financial difficulties California, New York, and New Jersey are experiencing and the migration of workers leaving these forced-unionism states:
NILRR recently found an especially strong correlation between a state’s Right to Work status and its job growth, while employees in Right to Work states are benefiting from faster job growth and higher real purchasing power than their compulsory unionism counterparts. Perhaps it's also worth revisiting a Wall Street Journal article penned late last year by National Right to Work President Mark Mix, reminding us that a massive expansion in forced unionism power played a key role in making the Great Depression longer and deeper. |
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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wasteful,yes I agree Ohio is a right to work state,but as I stated union's are a two edged sword. They are good AND bad.
I don't understand what you mean by the financial mess ??
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wasteful
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Hermes plenty of states are "Right to Work" states and do just fine. While Ohio and Michigan are in financial messes. |
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wasteful
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So Irisner your contention is that Union Leadership are not the true winners in Unions.....Come on. The days of the Union being good for city's is over and they are huritng Ohio as far as Jobs go.
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Hermes
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As a former union member union's are double edged swords. Without union's wages would be so low the entire country would be living in poverty. On the other hand union's have ruined job's such as : teachers,police,fire and medical.
To answer the question,yes,union's can destroy small business.
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lrisner
MUSA Citizen Joined: May 26 2009 Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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You guys have listened to Rush to often! Middletown would have never been the Great Middle Class City it was in the old days if not for Unions. The only people that Unions DON"T help are the Big money people. Even you Posters doing your Union Critiques are no doubt beneficiaries of union activity somewhere.
As to small business, do you see the Unions trying to organize Dillman's? No, and you won't. How can Unions hurt small Business when they rarely are involved in small Businesses? You are just espousing what some Conservative Pundit told you to say about Unions. Get some Labor History Education before you spout off! P.S. Rodger and Steve both are good guys, but I personally would never work for them. I have done business with them for a long time and have known many former Dillman's employees and state the former with good reason. No offense, Mr Spider! |
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randy
MUSA Official Joined: Jan 13 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1586 |
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On a personal note, I do not agree with unions and think that they hurt businesses and force layoffs and shut downs. I do agree with the right to protest though.
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wasteful
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Unions Hurt America by driving up Costs, just look at the Auto Industry and the Public Safety Unions in Ohio. Look at AK did Unions help them, nope....helped to kill a city. The only people that make out with Unions is the leadersip and those that are basically slackers.
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randy
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On Tuesday September 1, 2009 I was driving home from work and noticed that some protesters were out front of Dillmans on Central Ave. I spoke with Mr. Dillman and he said that he had let one of the guys protesting go and he was upset by that. (understandable) I asked why he had let the employee go and he responded by saying he didnt want to get into that (again understandable). He did assure me that it was a legitimate reason. Here is my question for our readers. Do unions hurt small businesses? I live very close to Dillmans and shop there often. I know Mr. Dillman and he is a great guy. He has had a business in this town for a LONG time, I believe since the early 60's. In a time when businesses are fighting to survive, is a union a smart idea or in the end will it cause your business to head the way of the auto industry ? You tell me? |
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