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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Posted: Oct 27 2009 at 7:29am |
Perhaps someone has access to your password or you forgot to log off, and they are playing a trick on you?
Anyway, I sincerely apologize for misquoting you. That absolutely was NOT my intent. I'll try to do better in the future, but I don't know how I can do better than quoting you word-for-word, in context!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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mtownsupporter
Outsider Joined: Aug 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Mike, with all due respect, I did not say that he is the only candidate that is not traditional.
Since you have no idea who I am, it amuses me that I remind you of AJ. Our backgrounds and politics are about as different as possible. If enthusiasm and concern for those around us are what we have in common, then I'll thank you and take your comment as a compliment. |
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wasteful
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 793 |
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I have to agree with Smartman on this one. Experience counts. When you listen to Smith speak publicly he reminds you exactly of someone else on a much larger scale that lacked experince nationally/globally and won the election........Obama. Is that a bad thing I guess that depends on your persepective and which way your politics lean. Personally Obama hasn't exactly impressed the hell out of me with much of anything he has done.
All the more reason I wish to do away with the Wards and allow everyone to vote for all the candidates. This kind of shoots down Merrill's theory down that a candidate from the 2nd ward can't raise the funds to run.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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With all due respect, perhaps you should do some homework. Mr. Smith is hardly "the only candidate who is different from the people who have been there so long", especially if you are speaking in reference to the "not the traditional student who goes to high school, college, and then works for some time before finding a career" bit.
Now I am NOT "anti-AJ", but I am not surprised that both you and "Ice Box" support him so passionately. You both remind me of him quite a bit!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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mtownsupporter
Outsider Joined: Aug 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Go to MUM versus gaining experience on a presidential election. Gee, that would be a hard choice to make ... Nobody says he didn't have the plans to go to college -- just that the plans changed. Unless you actually are AJ and are inside his head, your comments about what he "needs" is a bit inappropriate. I think the traditionalist approach to what a 20-year-old "should" be doing is getting in the way of seeing how a different perspective may actually be a good thing for the city.
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Smartman
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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Upon his graduation from high school he was to attend I believe Easter Kentucky U. During the school levy he used an EKU email address. He was also scheduled to attend MUM,,,I know people that took him to class each day until decided to go on a national campaign. Passion Mtown, I doubt it, its the need to see his name in the paper. He has always had to be the center of attention.
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mtownsupporter
Outsider Joined: Aug 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Yet again, Smartman, you're not coming across as very smart. Your comments about AJ and his pursuit of education are way off base. He has never NOT planned to pursue his education. OK, so he's not the traditional student who goes to high school, college, and then works for some time before finding a career. AJ has aspirations and a career path in mind already. Because of his efforts in running for the school board, he was given the opportunity to work on a national campaign. Did he go out and hunt that down? Absolutely not. Is it a crime to gain valuable life experience just because it doesn't fit into YOUR opinion of what a 20-year old should be doing? I don't think so.
Everyone complains about the people on City Council. If you want someone different, why are you complaining about the only candidate who is different from the people who have been there so long? Seems a tad hypocritical to me. If everyone on the current city council is so terrible, who is to say what the "correct" qualifications should be? It would seem to me that getting a wide range of people on the council in terms of experiences could only be beneficial -- as long as they are all committed to and passionate about the success of Middletown. Commitment and passion for this city are two things AJ Smith has demonstrated. Can everyone else (including the nay-sayers on this blog) say the same? |
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Smartman
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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Sure get your name in the paper and picture as well. My issues are not personal. I want someone with experience to fix my home town. Not a 20 year old! We need someone with life experience, experience with budgets of millions of dollars, experience with unions, experience with Section 8, experience with business development. Having been a 20 year old in another life, I know that I did not that kind of experience and neither does AJ. Glad he was able to participate in a national campaign, hope it benefits him in the future, but that does not qualify him to try to run Middletown, yet!
JMO
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Ice Box
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Made arrangements? Are you suggesting that someone was going to pay his tuition? I find it exceptionally hard to believe that a bright guy like that would pass up a free education. I've spoken with Mr. Smith about his previous educational opportunities, and unless you've ever had to walk in his shoes, don't jump the gun. I think you're missing some important facts. Maybe you should reach out to, Mr. Smith. He's a very open guy. Surely he would be willing to speak with you.
Btw, your issues with Mr. Smith sound personal. Also, tell me something, how many people pass up an opportunity to work on a national presidential campaign?--Democratic, Republican, Independent, etc. -- If I was as young as Mr. Smith, I would have taken that opportunity as well. JMO |
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Smartman
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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Ice Box, He's been going to start school for 2 years. Every chance he gets to have his, picture in the paper, his name in the paper that stops school. I know serveral influential people that had made arrangements for him to go to school a year and a half ago. He blew them off. I really doubt that he will attend school as long as he can see his name in print. And I do question his bio on his web page. There are discrepencies that I cannot discuss.
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Ice Box
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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He's a small business owner, ASJ & Associates, LLC. That was mentioned in his profile done by the Middletown Journal sometime over the last few weeks.
I'm not 100% sure about all the work his company does, however, I know that a lot of it is political work. He also promised me, (which was a prerequisite of getting my support) that he would start school at Miami in January. He's going to go far, definitely a man that deserves our support. |
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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I can't vote for or against Mr. Smith. What does he do for a living?
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Ice Box
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Smartman, I'm certain that you don't know as much as you claim, too. I also know Mr. Smith, and he does not come across as someone that like's being in the "limelight." Keep in mind that he's 20 years old, has a campaign office, raised the most money out of all the candidates in the race, had the chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party at his office, etc. -- All of which are worthy of press, or "limelight."
Just think, how much more worse could he be compared to what we have? If he's not better (which I highly doubt) then we get rid off him, no different than the others. Pacman, of course Mr. Smith's donors would raise an eyebrow for some, including myself. However, I know Mr. Smith and I don't think for one second that those donations would compromise the integrity of his campaign or the type of councilman he will be. It takes money to run campaigns, plain and simple. I'm just happy that the good ol' boys aren't funding his campaign. That alone speaks volumes about him! GOOD LUCK, MR. SMITH! |
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Smartman
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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I know AJ very well, and while I admire his spunk he likes being in the limelight. Maybe in time once he has real life experience and a college degree or just some advanced education, he might be ready to run this city. It concerns me greatly that grown adults support a 20 year old with no life experience. It makes me wonder how is really coaching him? I want some folks on council who know how to sit across from business folks and work to create jobs. My picks
Soppanish
Laubach
Barge
Nagy
We need a change and these guys will be a breath of fresh air!
JMO
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Ice Box I see enough names on Smith's list to make me go .......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Just look at the number 1 contributor a guy named Dillman.......got to keep an eye on that one.
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mtownsupporter
Outsider Joined: Aug 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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IceBox and Tudor Brown, I absolutely agree with you! I have been so impressed with how AJ has organized and implemented his campaign. He has taken the experience he has gained on the national level and combined it with his passion for improving Middletown to really shown just how serious he is about making and supporting change in the community. Go AJ!
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Your question was answered in the second post before you asked this question. Perhaps you didn't believe me, or perhaps you think you know more.
The reasoning behind my answer relied on my life experience through following many campaigns, and especially local campaigns in small municipalities. Since you seem to think you may know better, I have since checked the ORC and found that I was correct.
You can see for yourself at, http://66.161.141.185/orc/3517.10 !
ORC Section 3710(A)(3) states, in part:
I hope that this helps you to understand.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Ice Box
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I would have to agree with you, Tudor Brown. I find it exceptionally accepting as a citizen that Mr. Smith raised the most money in the city, but not from your institutional, status quo, good ol' boy donors. Think about it, he didn’t take a dime from Wainscott, McCoy, McNeil, Cohen, Akers, any of them. He's definitely the change we need on City Council. I'm rooting for you, Mr. Smith. |
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TudorBrown
MUSA Citizen Joined: Aug 24 2009 Location: Highlands D. Status: Offline Points: 265 |
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If AJ is getting out, and working this hard now, just imagine what he'll do for Middletown as a councilman.
Do you see any other candidates that are as motivated? I don't |
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tootie
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Sep 16 2009 Status: Offline Points: 32 |
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It was no surprise who contributed to those campaigns. Are there so few people in town that does not see (or care) what has been going on? Apparently, since Middletown has been on this same path for years. I can't see that there will be much improvement for years to come with all these like minded people running the show. I wish I could have stuck my head thru the TV and told the incumbents at the last forum to talk to a couple of small business owners I know and let them tell how business unfriendly Middletown is. I'm sure there are some businesses that haven't had any problems but council hasn't done much to improve their image. |
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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wannaknow
MUSA Resident Joined: Feb 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 138 |
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Take note of who contributed to Marconi, Armbruster and Picard. Do you think if those three are on council that those contributers won't get first consideration, just like it is now and has been for a long time. That's how Middletown got into this mess, one hand greasing the other with no thought of how to improve the city as a whole. It's personal good ol' boy politics, let's all get rich together. When the whole shebang is over they will have enough money to live comfortably and to hell with us little people. Not only are they not business friendly towards anyone outside their circle but it seems they will go out of their way to create problems to stop any progress being made. It amazes and saddens me to know there is so much corruption. It would be nice to get new ppl in office and IMO if given enough time they could make a difference. But how do you change the mind-set of the ppl with power (money) that have controlled Middletown through council for years. Do you really think they are going to sudenly change their thinking and try to do good for someone other than themselves? THEY DON"T CARE about the town, the ppl, attracting new business, the schools, the roads because they have what they want already. Most of them probably don't even live here. They live in nice, progressive, upscale places with good roads and schools.
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tootie
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Sep 16 2009 Status: Offline Points: 32 |
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I must be missing your point. You say it takes money and I say it shouldn't be about money. I see no reason for someone to need thousands of dollars (such as Mulligan and Becker in the last election for a $5000 a year seat) Yes Marconi and Armbruster have the advantage because they are the "known Names". I will still stand on my opinion that it shouldn't be about money or your name but I am not so blind as to know that is usually the way it goes. And yes unfortunately some people will vote for names which is a big part of the problem now.
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rngrmed
MUSA Citizen Joined: May 06 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 309 |
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Mike-- sounds like running would be fun just to have a "campaign party" with some of those funds
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Ranger:
There are a wide range of allowable uses for unspent campaign funds, many of which are honorable and ethical, others not so much.
I won't try to list them here. Suffice it to say that lawyers and politicians wrote and enacted the rules regarding unexpended campaign funds.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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