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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pacman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 20 2010 at 11:37am
As crazy as it is Bobbie that is Ohio and Middletown Law.  I persoanlly have never lived in a state that required residential landowners to repair Public Sidewalks and street gutters and curbs but they do in Ohio.  Another crazy Ohio law.
 
You can either hire your own private company to do the repairs or the city will do the repairs send you a bill and you can pay it in full or they will put it on your tax bill and you make payments over 5 years.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bobbie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 20 2010 at 11:15am
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I did read it.  I stand by what I said.  They are asking the individuals to have there sidewalks and aprons fixed on the roads they are working on.  Holly is not a major road - why does it need to be fixed - as well as the sidewalks and aprons.  Should they not be focusing on roads and sidewalks on major roadways? 
Repair work is costly for some individuals - if they are having issues with money, where will they come up with the funds to fix this.  I know they can have it put on their property taxes - but then they will be paying it over years  and it cause their mortgage payment to increase.   Also brings in the fact that if they go to sell the house - it is harder because of the taxes. 
 
I feel they are asking individuals to spend money, when a lot of people do not have it. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote spiderjohn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 20 2010 at 10:41am

disappointed by the lack of active business owners from this master plan list.

Council continues to ignore this very important segment of our community that actually puts their $$ on the line and employs locals. Why aren't the man that owns Stefano's/surrounding properties and the owner of Java Johnny's on this list? They are young and aggressive + care very much about the community where they were born, continue to live, and have invested big time while making significant improvements to their local properties(also employing locals). Also they operate in the CENTER of the town, which has been ignored by virtually eveyone in Council/Admin.

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Originally posted by Bobbie Bobbie wrote:

Regarding the sidewalks, curbs, etc.  There are some streets that have already been marked (spray painted) showing where repairs will need to be.  Maybe that is why there is an emergency - they have already marked the areas to be fixed.  But really isn't it ironic they want the curbs and sidewalks fixed - yet our roads look horrible.

Originally posted by rngrmed rngrmed wrote:

LOL...emergency legislation for property owners to fix sidewalks and aprons..I had 3 flat tires related to potholes last year and the City is responsible and only patches the holes but "EMERGENCY LEGISLATION" for sidewalks and aprons? 

Originally posted by rngrmed rngrmed wrote:

What are the criteria that sidewalks and apron be repaired? Are they looking for consistency, such as the flat aprons? Or only repair any damage? Is this City wide or just certain areas? Why not throw in some mandatory landscaping too? ;) 

Did the two of you bother to read the legislation?  If you had, you would know that these improvements are in conjunction with street paving and resurfacing.  The city is just assessing property owners for the work to sidewalks and aprons. 
 
In addition to the University and Sutphin projects (Thanks, Obama!), the city is spending a couple million dollars on local and residential streets in 2010.
 
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What are the criteria that sidewalks and apron be repaired? Are they looking for consistency, such as the flat aprons? Or only repair any damage? Is this City wide or just certain areas? Why not throw in some mandatory landscaping too? ;) 
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LOL...emergency legislation for property owners to fix sidewalks and aprons..I had 3 flat tires related to potholes last year and the City is responsible and only patches the holes but "EMERGENCY LEGISLATION" for sidewalks and aprons? 
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hey wasteful--I resemble that remark!
yep swohio, sj's mentor made the cut.
So the musa forum has a voice.
I will try to keep you as informed as possible, and throw the issues your way for your thoughts(as if I don't know them already).
 
looks predictably slanted in the dark siders' favor, though a good number of moderate open minds(including a few that surprisingly MIGHT swing over on a few issues).
 
We shall make the best of it, and hopefully make the right choices, though recently admin/planning/ed has conveniently tossed the master plan out the window as to their actions.
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Looks to be the usual suspects for the most part on the Master Plan Steering Committee.  No wonder changes are slow coming in this town.
 
 
Emergencey on the Gutter, Sidewalks etc. was explained at the last meeting I believe.  Basically a timing issue to get work done on a schedule, don't see much wrong with that as the residents foot the bill for those repairs unfortunately.
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Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

Concerning the Master Plan Steering Committee- are the folks being appointed representative of all the disciplines (public service/private business/private citizens. etc.) in town and represent all areas of town to allow input from all areas as to this plan? Or, are these folks pre-planned, pre-contrived members of some of the friends of the city? Looks like some familiar names that appear quite often when selections are made. The city must not trust anyone outside the parameters set forth as to selection.

Looks like Mr. Michel is "moving up to the east side"! Are there others that are "city-owned"?
Maybe spiderjohn can answer that.
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Regarding the sidewalks, curbs, etc.  There are some streets that have already been marked (spray painted) showing where repairs will need to be.  Maybe that is why there is an emergency - they have already marked the areas to be fixed.  But really isn't it ironic they want the curbs and sidewalks fixed - yet our roads look horrible.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VietVet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 19 2010 at 12:24pm
Concerning the Master Plan Steering Committee- are the folks being appointed representative of all the disciplines (public service/private business/private citizens. etc.) in town and represent all areas of town to allow input from all areas as to this plan? Or, are these folks pre-planned, pre-contrived members of some of the friends of the city? Looks like some familiar names that appear quite often when selections are made. The city must not trust anyone outside the parameters set forth as to selection.

Looks like Mr. Michel is "moving up to the east side"! Are there others that are "city-owned"?
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"Declaring an emergency" for sidewalks, curbs, gutters, driveway aprons? Do these repairs require emergency legislation? Why, do we have some VIP's coming to town? What's the rush? Why is EVERYTHING an emergency? How 'bout cha Leslie! Mr. Laubach, Mr. Smith, Ms. Scott-Jones, could you explain this?
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7. Resolution No. R2010-08, a resolution declaring the necessity of repairing certain sidewalks, curbs, gutters and driveway aprons in the City of Middletown, requiring that abutting property owners repair the same, and declaring an emergency.
 
 
 
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