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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rngrmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 10:32am

People are going to complain about what they can see and what's in the news.  People did complain the Execs and TYCO and ENRON and I'm sure they complain about tax cheats every tax season or speeders when they are following the flow of traffic when  and they are the ones that get caught.

Being that I work in healthcare, it is not just illegal immigrants that cause a problem.  I'm sure it starts with the outrageous cost of healthcare.  But when a person comes in without health insurance OR they can not afford to pay their bill, prices go up to be distributed to the rest of society just like department strores do to offset the cost of theft.  Then it comes down to what people have experience with or what they see.  Do we SEE a big problem with illegal Canadians, Irish, Scottish? Or just those from Latin American countries.
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....though I was no fan of Prez Bush, I think his plan for dealing with this was a start.  Bring them into the daylight, make them pay a penalty and wait in line, but legalize their existence here.  The reality is we're not sending 15 million people home so let's secure the border and start rationally dealing with those who are here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2010 at 6:37am

The legality of it is sort of the issue.  But we don't protest about the everyday traffic violators, tax cheats, corporate shenanigans, welfare frauders, etc.  All of these things and more happen every day, they are against the law, and yet we dont do much about it.  But the illegal aliens are different -- they look different and many of them are obviously not from here.  Like I said, this is a big problem that needs to be dealt with but it might behoove all of us to face ourselves in the mirror and ask how much of our outrage is legitimate and how much is because it is a chance to "pile on" people that are different than us.   When a sheriff in Butler County Ohio can use the issue as his whole platform, there's something more at play here than simply dealing with one of our many problems.  That something is darker, more unsavory, more bloodthirsty than trying to rally citizens to solve, say, our Social Security problems.  Would we react with the same outrage if we started seeing thousands of Irish or Canadians sneaking into our country?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rngrmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2010 at 10:54pm
Hermes makes a good point.  The legality of all this is the issue.  Many people are confusing being opposed to all immigration versus being opposed to legal immigration. 
I said earlier on one of the other posts that when I was in the Army we were always educated on the customs and cultures of the countries we were visiting/aiding.  In comparison, I was in class last week and we were talking about respecting the cultures/customs of patients that come in to be seen by us.  It seems no matter what, We (US Citizens) are always bending over to respect to the customs of others with nothing in return.  I'm ok with President Obama bowing to foreign dignitaries on their turf, but shouldn't they shake hands over here?
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Bill - I can't answer for anyone else and I don't speak from a "racist" type of platform. I even speak Spanish and have always wanted to visit Mexico, but....my point and anger is geared toward our countries leaders NOT a people.
 
My own origins are made up of many countries & nationalities, German,Irish,Scottish, Welsh and Native American. IMO unless your Native American then we are all at least descended from immigrants so we have no right to bad mouth new immigrants who come into the country LEGALLY. Matter of fact I welcome with open arms all who seek a better life in this country,but who do it LEGALLY. Climbing over a fence and hiding out from the law is like walking into my house without my knowledge and without knocking on the door.
 
Knock and the door shall be open,LEGALLY.
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I don't doubt this problem is a big issue and especially causing some problems in the border states, but I think it's also a convenient way to vent about people that are different than us.   Before you say "no way, we just want respect for our laws", I say fine maybe you do but many others find it a feel-good way to b*tch about people that look different and don't talk like us.  The prejudices we have against those out of our culture (be it race, creed, southern accent, etc) are powerful but usually silent.  This issue (and Sheriff Jones) give people a socially acceptable chance to vent about "different people".

Is this issue any bigger than others we generally ignore, like the drug war, vehicle accidents, drunk drivers, government waste, violent crime, etc.?  Or does it just feel better to rant about this one?  Again, I'm not saying this issue shouldn't be dealt with, but look yourself in the mirror and say that your venom toward the Mexicans has absolutely nothing to do with the fact they look and talk different than you.
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Senor wasteful that is a good letter to El Presidente Obama.
 
Just move to Mexico with me, we'll have a blast and we can live on a dollar a day !!  Big%20smile
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From NumbersUSA.com, sent mine off:
 
President Barack Obama
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC 20500

Dear President Obama,

Arizona has just passed the most sweeping, pro-American and pro-legal immigrant immigration enforcement law in the country, and you should follow suit by making sure all states enforce America's immigration laws.


Arizona's new piece of legislation, SB 1070, does even more to keep its residents safe. The legislation:

-allows police officers to ask for proof of residency if they suspect an individual is in the country illegally,

-allows illegal aliens to be jailed and fined up to $2500,

-bans "soft" immigration policies at local police agencies that prevent officers from asking about a suspect's immigration status,

-allows Arizonans to sue if they feel a government agency has adopted a policy that hinders the enforcement of illegal immigration laws,

-prohibits people from blocking traffic when they seek or offer day-labor services on street corners,

-and makes it illegal for people to transport illegal aliens if the drivers of vehicles know their passengers are in the country illegally and if the transportation furthers their illegal presence in the country.

You and Congress should be ashamed that states are being forced to enforce federal law because the federal government doesn't have the backbone to do the job. Please observe the will of the American people and make sure our immigration laws are enforced!

An American for sovereignty,

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Dear Mr. President
I’m planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

We’re planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and we’ll need your help to make a few arrangements.

We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.

I’m sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I’m on my way over?

Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. Please print all Mexican government forms in English.

4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver’s license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico but I don’t plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won’t make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U. S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

14. I want to receive free food stamps.

15. Naturally, I’ll expect free rent subsidies.

16. I’ll need Income tax credits so although I don’t pay Mexican Taxes, I’ll receive money from the government.

17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Gov’t pays $4,500 to help me buy a new car.

18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I’ll get a monthly income in retirement.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico … I am sure that President Calderon won’t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Thank you so much for your kind help. You’re the man!!!

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