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http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/community/new-arts-center-revitalizes-middletown

Anybody see this video yet? I love it how Channel 2 closes the report with 3 different people that would never be cool enough to toast the arts with plastic cups.

I was wondering... who gets the contracting job of renovating the new PAC? It wouldn't be the glass shop owners and all their woodwork removed from school buildings, would it?
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I dunno--seems like a nice and appropriate gesture from Mr.Verdin/Pendleton.
Let's don't misplace our frustration and displeasure.
You can't fault Mr.Verdin for grabbing this deal. Anyone would be delusional not to accept those terms.
After listening to Mr.V ramble on at the Council meeting(would our Mayor have let anyone else speak so broadly for so long?), I decided that he is the only redeeming hope in this project. The 26 mumbling "pro project" speakers gave little reason and have produced nothing significant in the area so far. Simply shills addicted to the public dole, hoping to remain in favor for their next life support bailout.
 
ED/Mr.Robinette authored this taxpayer/"downtown" raping, with Admin approval.
Council couldn't endorse it fast enough, despite knowing the fundamental precedent and area evaluation message..
Council/Admin is ready to turn over Hook Field to this same ED Dept.?
A ploy to get at the airport funds to strengthen a rumored depleted ED Dept.funding?
Haven't Mr.Bevis and Co. done well enough in transforming Hook?
 
By approving the property giveaway the way that it was structured, Council/Admin has officially determined that all property in that immediate area is totally worthless. Anyone thinking of buying in down there must now be having serious second thoughts. Beau Verre now knows that their building is worth basically nothing. 56 Degrees is worth nothing. The medicine/soda shop is worth nothing. Main St. is worth nothing. The Manchester Inn is worth nothing. Many others are worth far less than zero.
 
We should have plenty of others knocking on the door for a similar package. Council has lost all public confidence at this time. They need changed out at the eariest opportunity, along with a few positions in the bunker. Our newer members all let us hang when it truly mattered.
Sad day.
 
The tide has turned, and now the discourse here at MUSA has become more important.
So--be careful what you say and how it is said.
We can make huge strides at this time by being positive in OUR direction, along with innovative and intelligent. thinking, even though we'uns ain't all that brilliant either.
 
The MJ discussions are mush.
The posters here seem knowledgeable, experienced locally and creative. 
OK--let's turn up the heat and ?s in all of the right ways.
The community we could save may well be our own.
 
Notice is up that applications are being taken for next year's boards and committees appointments.
I sense a new concept of inclusion, and many from this site could end up being very well-placed.
Time to get MORE involved!
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Exactly, Vet.
 
Just like all of the local yokels in "The Music Man", they fell under the spell of this Professor Hill because they "want to believe", and they are certain that we will have "the best boys' band this side of Chicago"!!! 
 
Yet, they asked no questions, did no investigation, and really have no idea of what a REASONABLE expection of tangible results might be.  They fell hook, line, and sinker that all of the other artsy stuff in Cincinnati is the result of PAC, when actually PAC's success is the result of all the artsy stuff that was there BEFORE him!!! 
 
It didn't really take much investigation to figure that out, but apparently too much for our city officials.
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike- just got done reading some of the posts from the artzy defenders over on the Journal site. I find it ironic when they challenge the MUSA people to present any evidence of accomplishment for the community when all they have done so far is show up at a frickin' council meeting to give testimony about how "wonderful" this arts center will be for the development of the downtown. They (nor anyone else) don't have a clue how all of this will turn out. Apparently to them, it's all an emotional trip of support for this crap with no tangible evidence of success presented nor any requirements/ city protection from Verdin necessary. It is amazing that some of these artsy people need no assurance what-so-ever from Verdin on any commitment of success using their tax dollars. Not logical.
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It is interesting to note that PAC-Ashland (the situation most analogous to Middletown) has only 19 "artists" after being in existence for several years.

There is also a "cafe" open five days a week from 9 am to 3 pm (no breakfast or dinner) plus the one evening per month for the "First Friday" event.

PAC-Rising Sun (a small town with THOUSANDS of cash-laden out-of-town visitors daily due to the two CASINOS located there) also has only 19 "artists", but no cafe.
 
Given the limited success in these two locations, is the booming ecconomic development anticipated for Middletown actually a reasonable expectation???  I don't know, but apparently there are only a very few Middletonians who are doubtful if one is to believe the Journal posters and the Citizens' Comments at the last Council meeting or the City officials themselves.
 
Did our city officials take the time to inquire of the Ashland or Rising Sun city officials about the tax receipts resultant from the Pendleton Centers there prior to plunking down our scarce tax dollars, or did they just "take it on faith" from Professor Harold "Verdin" Hill that this "boys' band" was just the ticket to cure our "River City" trouble, trouble, trouble???
 
Did anyone even ask Verdin who occupies the "condos" in Rising Sun that moved so quickly?  Were they artists or art lovers, or could they possibly have been CASINO employees tired of the long commutes from Cincinnati, Louisville, Indianapolis, and Lexington??? 
 
The last I looked, Middletown doesn't have a casino.  In fact, our city officials did everything possible to keep a casino OUT of their preferred location in Middletown.
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Originally posted by What A City What A City wrote:

Mercy! We here on MUSA are taking a beating over on the Middletown Journal story on this. The pro Pendleton people are out in force and hammering our already tattered reputation as no-shows and promises never kept. It's enough to make one Cry....
What A City:
I just came back from having a look over there at The Journal story, and if the pro-Pendleton posters (actually, they seem to be all the same juvenile-acting individual who holds a political plum position--paid for by the taxpayers!) are representative of the class of people who might be in attendance, I am unsure that we should honor them with our presence!!! 
 
We are probably too HIGH CLASS to hob knob with them!!!  I'd much rather have a cold beer (or three) and a hamburger with some real citizens who have the best interests of Middletown at heart, and do it somewhere that may actually pay some taxes into the city treasury!!!
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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My wife threw out my poker-playing dogs on velvet several years ago.  It was the extra large over-the-sofa size, original by a noted Tiajuana artist, too!!!  It added a wonderful touch back in the days when I used to keep a craps table in my living room. LOL LOL LOL
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mercy! We here on MUSA are taking a beating over on the Middletown Journal story on this. The pro Pendleton people are out in force and hammering our already tattered reputation as no-shows and promises never kept. It's enough to make one Cry.  Big%20smile   Of course, someone from MUSA is helping it along baiting them, trying to raise the old blood pressure a few notches. Big%20smile  Looks like, by the responses, they are rather easy to rile tonight. Give it a try if you're bored. Perhaps the antagonist enjoys this type of behavior. Shameful.

So, Hermes, the Velveeta is totally out of the question? How about some sardines in mustard with some beer in the white cans from the bargain bin to go along with that bologna and crackers? Would they resent us for bringing that? Big%20smile  I guess beer belching is totally out of the question at this gala. Do you think we could help them out with the arts theme by donating a velvet Elvis painting won  years ago from LeSourdsville Lake? How about the dogs playing poker picture, an artistic classic! Just kidding.......
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Gee, guys, I'll have to discuss the matter with my social secretary to see if my schedule is open. I might have a previous engagement at the doggie park in West Chester.

Here's a thought:  Given the heart-warming story told by Mr. Verdin about the $600,000 objet d'art sculpted by the famous NY artist from scrap laying around his bell works, do you think a representative from Cohen Bros. will be there selling "art supplies"???  Wink
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Yes Mr. Vet we really should take along a fine wine such as you mention. I believe it would be most considerate of us to share with everyone our finest find. Surely you jest by suggesting a boxed wine ! I believe a more appropriate drink for such an autistic occasion calls for at least a plastic bottle of wine. I think that would be most impressive don't you ?
 
I agree someone should bring the crackers,perhaps Randal or Michael could be persuaded to supply us. And I might add a fresh roll of salami or bologna could also be for a treat ! They go great with the crackers. I believe Velvetta could be a bit much,after all this isn't an event the queen mum would attend. Although I would be delighted with her presence !
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Pip pip and cheerio, my good man Hermes. Shall we take a bottle of wine to this illustrious partaking? Perhaps an aged bottle of Ripple, or would you prefer the oldest white box with the word "WINE" on it from the local drive-thru to mark the occasion, my good man? Perhaps Presta can bring the Velveeta or string cheese and crackers along with him. What say you, Master Presta, distinguished gentleman from the northern suburbia Prestas? Randall Esquire, be ready to attend looking your best from the upscale, designer Wal-Mart collection. Remember, only the best will do for this occasion. We want to look our best while representing the rest of the MUSA participants.

Dare I say that this event has already been tarnished? One of us has posted on the Journal and been called a jerk (by one of our friends from the arts community no doubt). And here we were attempting to be as graceful and courteous as we could be too. How dastardly of that coward who name-called.   
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I too plan on attending this historic event, and ask that all MUSA folks are on their very best behavior. this is the future of our town.... Wink
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I shall make an attempt to attend this gala,I look forward to meeting many of the acclaimed artist as well as Mr. Verdin himself. I shall ask questions but only what I believe shall pertain to the functions of the art center itself. I feel it will be a jolly good time with all the attendees and I shall stifle myself until the event. It is not good for the health to be excited prior to such an event.
 
Mr. Vet,you may accompany me to the event but I ask that you remain a gentleman at all times. I wince at the thought of you not attending as you are one of the corner stones of our society. I look forward to the chance of being in attendance to witness such a spectacular gathering of the social elite.
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OK MUSA- Time to have an opportunity to meet Verdin and the rest of the Pendleton Arts people on Sept 2 from 4PM to 7PM at 130 N. Verity. They will entertain questions from community members as they want to "meet the people who live here"! Come with your questions and watch as they put all our fears to rest providing answers to "how many jobs do you think this will create?" What types of jobs do you see being created?" "What do you think these jobs will pay that are attracted to your arts center?" "How much traffic volume do you anticipate seeing downtown on any given night?" Never know- People on this site like Hermes and Mike Presta may get to rub elbows with the big doggies and important city leaders as they sip wine and eat crumpets while engaging in some meaningful conversation that only Hermes could understand. Ready to share a glass with Kohler, Gilleland, Robinette, Verdin or one of the artzy supporters from the council meeting Hermes? Should we have an interpreter to help us heathens understand the cultured folks? Just kidding now, anti-MUSA people. Don't get all bunged with that stick up your keester.
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