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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Posted: Nov 10 2010 at 5:52pm |
Wasteful:
You are exactly right!!!
Angelbaby stole part of my post to promote her ART mall website, and it appears that the rest of that very same post may have inspired the "use junk from Cohen Bros. as artsy siding" idea!!!
I'm glad to see that I've become an "inspiration" to people!!! Usually, I just serve as a BAD EXAMPLE!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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wasteful
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 793 |
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It was posted on here somewhere earlier that Angelababy is just a spammer advertising a website through her signature line. She is not really interested in any of these topics as your post above proves. As was stated a couple of days ago she pops up and makes nonsensical posts about topics sometimes months old. It is probably a computer program doing the work for him or her.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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And you guys thought I didn't know anything about art!!! I'll be darned if they aren't actually trying this!!!
I wonder if they will credit ME for the idea???
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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angelababy
MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
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guys, I'll have to discuss the matter with my social
secretary to see if my schedule is open. I might have a previous
engagement at the doggie park in West Chester.
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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GRAND OPENING is just 30 days away |
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angelababy
MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
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It was the extra large over-the-sofa size, original by a noted Tiajuana
artist, too!!! It added a wonderful touch back in the days when I used
to keep a craps table in my living room.
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SupportMiddletown
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 181 |
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There are a couple differences here. The building Pendleton will occupy is owned by the City of Middletown. They are investing in their own property and putting it into productive use, despite a private entity taking it over.
Additionally, Pendelton is a downtown revitalization strategy. Kingswell will likely be a good addition to downtown, but it isn't likely to attract the same type of attention or spin off that Pendelton will, even if you don't believe that Pendelton will be overly successful.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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This shows the hypocrisy of this Historic commission!!!
NONE of these so-called "historic" buildings are/have been "restored" to what they actually, truly used to look like. They are being modified to what someone has DREAMED that they WISHED downtown Middletown used to look like!!!
The Historic Commission is violating their OWN law!!
Off to prison with them!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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swohio75
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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Right. Kingswell received conditional use by Planning Commission at Wednesday’s meeting. Lewis Consolidated owns the building, as well as the Sebald building next door, and the two historic buildings across the street (Worthmore/City Hotel and Joy Shop). Lewis Consolidated’s application for Certificate of Appropriateness for the addition and renovation received approval at the August 26, 2010 meeting of the Council on Landmarks and Historic Districts: COUNCIL ON LANDMARKS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS August 26, 2010 CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS UCC URBAN CORE CENTRAL DISTRICT ADDITION AND RENOVATION – 1124 CENTRAL AVE. Mr. Kohler introduced the application by Lewis Consolidated for a building addition at the rear of 1124 Central Ave. as part of a construction project to convert the former retail and office building into a ground level restaurant and upper level theological seminary. This building is also known as the Castell Building. The construction involves filling the interior courtyard into building space and a small vestibule addition. The style of brick and windows proposed will match the style of the existing façade. While the rear of the building was constructed next to another building and was not visible from the street. Now that the building is visible from the public parking lot and transit station, the addition will give a more finished appearance to the back of the building. The proposed improvements are generally consistent with the urban design guidelines. A motion was made by Mr. Hayes, seconded by Mr. Sauer to approve the application as presented. The approval was unanimous. The windows in the Castell building have been replaced. If memory serves me correctly, I do believe Lewis Consolidated received a façade improvement grant from the city a while back to help with the replacement. But I’m not 100% sure. If so, it is no where near what Pendleton received. |
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What A City
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 06 2009 Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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You are correct. We don't know Vivian. Just going by the Journal's story that stated that Kingswell will use their own money to the tune of $350,000 to rehab the building. Do you mean to tell me that the city would loan this school some of our tax money and not tell us? ......and....the Journal would not report it?
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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What A City
How do we know that the City has not already agreed to give them a “LOAN” from the Downtown Fund for this project? Just because it hasn’t been brought before council doesn’t mean that this isn’t the plan at a later date. Please remember that they just passed the "Main Street Plan" at the last council meeting. |
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What A City
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 06 2009 Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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OK- story in today's Journal about the Kingswell School being developed on Central Ave. The story states that Kingswell will spend $350,000 to refurbish the building for use.
Question..... what is the difference between this Kingswell school setting up downtown and using their own money to do so and the Pendleton Arts Center setting up downtown and using taxpayer money to do it? Why did the city decide to help the Arts Center gain financial access for a startup and not this school? Helping their buddies in the arts and no connection with the new school?
Wonder why Kingswell didn't go to the city for a sweet deal like Verdin got?
Just an observation.
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randy
MUSA Official Joined: Jan 13 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1586 |
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Gosh, I am sorry I missed last nights event. Hermes I could have introduced you to Vet and to Mike, well I have never met you so maybe I couldn't have. But man we could have talked football with Vet.
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Mike - I think I seen you but wasn't sure as I was talking to a lady about art and was so engrossed by the conversation I couldn't break away.
I was there for about 15 minutes and I had to leave,I hate being ignored by people who think they are of a higher stature than myself. I seriously doubt there were 200 or more there,if they were it was before I got there. But like Mike said the guest registery would or could verify that.
Vet - I've never met you in person so if you walked right by me last night I apologize,but then again you wouldn't know me. (I was the guy swigging from a bottle of wine in a brown paper bag)
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What A City
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 06 2009 Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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Mike- sounds like the abruptness of Verdin's departure after you were introduced could be taken two ways:
1. He felt he didn't have time for you as he had more important people to talk to.......OR.....
2. He knew from your opposition at the council meeting, with him in attendance, that you were seen as the "enemy" of this project and perhaps resented being introduced to you and as a result, had no time for you in a discussion one on one.
Either way, it was rude, particularly on the part of a person who is trying to portray themselves as being a "cultured individual". If that is an example of the way these artsy people are going to act, no wonder we make fun of them and resent their very being. Same goes with any of Verdin's supporters that choose to act in a snooty fashion. To hell with them if that's their position on this.
Bottom line- this was advertised by the Journal as a "meet and greet" for the community and open to the public. It didn't appear that this happened at all, rather, another exclusionary episode of the small number or snobs ignoring the general public and then, having the audacity to raid the public funds to make this potential fiasco happen.
Randy- IMO, if this fails, the first ones to hear about it will be city council ( just like Anita Scott- Jones said- she will hear about it) because THEY are responsible for the funding and cowering down to this small band of elitists. I can't say as I blame Verdin or his little band of artsy gypsies for putting out this propaganda program of downtown empire building. More power to them. Just frustrating to see the city leaders not protecting the people's money on such a risky venture. That's the initial issue with the secondary issue being learning a lesson not the do it again. JMO
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randy
MUSA Official Joined: Jan 13 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1586 |
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I was unable to attend last nights party at Pendleton, which saddens me, I had a case of Bush Light ready to go. It was in the bottles and thats about as classy as I can get I have read the journal article and comments from my buddies that did show up. If and I a mean IF 200 people showed up to show support for this then thats great. I truly hope this project is a huge success. I just dont feel that it will be. The question I have is what will happen with and if this does fail? All those people that came to council and said how much this will impact the downtown nd bring life back to our city. Will they then come back and say sorry we were wrong and will they give me back my tax money spent on this? NO!!! They will blame the failure on all of us for not being more supportive from the start.
Mike, dont let those comments made about your attire get to you, which I know you wont. These artsy folks will be eating there words soon enough.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Well…this certainly is turning into an interesting state of affairs. Interesting, but also a little confusing. I am sure that many people, myself included, have their own take on the entire subject, and those takes probably vary widely. Since all that most of you have to go on is probably The Journal’s version of the latest event in this saga, I thought I that I might add my first-hand narrative of my experience at the Middletown Art Center last evening, and how it might differ with The Journal’s version. While I will strive to be as objective as possible, please bear in mind that is the way I saw things. First, The Journal story stated that “about 200 people attended”. I think that is entirely possible and should be easily verifiable, should anyone care to do so as there was a sign-in book near the entrance. I made no attempt to “count heads“, but while I was there I can say that between 30-40 people were “mingling” in the entry foyer (which seemed to be the “reception area”). Another four to six people were browsing in the “Exhibition Hall” at any one time during my stay where a host of works by Velma J. Morris were being displayed. I was “greeted” (after I walked over towards him) by a well-known local figure who introduced me to Mr. Verdin as a “civic activist and rabble-rouser”. Since I doubted that he knew the true meaning of the term “rabble-rouser”, I did not take offense and considered it an attempt at a good-natured ice-breaker. Mr. Verdin excused himself immediately after shaking hands, as he seemed to see someone across the room with whom he had an urgent need to speak. I was warmly received by Ms. Cathy Mulligan. Her husband (Larry, the former head of the water department, NOT Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr., the Mayor) also said a few words. Apparently, I was either too late or too early for the part where area residents were “allowed a chance to learn more about PAC”. The few comments that I did hear about PAC-Middletown and the taxpayers’ investment???
If I started to bring up facts or figures, these three statements were just repeated, so I politely smiled, nodded my head, and did not press any issues. I went back three times to the Exhibition Hall to view some of the race horse works by Ms. Morris, and actually was quite taken with her colored pencil work “Angel With a Harp”. I might even have considered a purchase had the artist been there, even though my wife warned me that we should be supporting the two artists in our own family now. Bottom line??? (And this may not be completely objective!!) Most of the people there seemed to be more interested in the free wine and hors d'oeuvres than in discussing art or PAC-Middletown and its economic impact on Middletown. PS to Hermes: I di NOT arrive empty handed!!! I brought my own before-breakfast beverage of choice, a frost litre (<-- notice the sophisticated, artsy, "continental" spelling ) of Diet Pepsi to sip -- out of the plastic bottle-!! PPS: I also made it a point to wear shorts and sandals. At the last council meeting, which was held an hour earlier than scheduled, I overheard some of the "artsy" set ridiculing and snickering at the guy who wore shorts and sandals to a council meeting. One would think such sophisticated aristocrats would be better mannered!! |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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What A City
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 06 2009 Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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What would you estimate as to the numbers there Mike? Maybe 70 or so? Only ones I recognized were you and Mr. Wood, but then I didn't stay long enough to get a good look at the folks that were there. I would have thought that they would have had an arts supporter or two manning the door to "meet and greet" the community members as the story yesterday stated that the purpose of this event was to talk to the community. When I walked in, it had the feel of exclusion for anyone but the usual crowd. Any city officials there? Didn't see any.
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Rhodes
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The owners of the local glass studio bought the leftovers of an older company that wasn't really even in business anymore. At least barely in business. They got all of their inventory and the name of the business, which was called Riordan. Technically the original glass company is long gone and the company owned in Middletown added the other company's name to theirs so they can now claim they are the oldest stained glass company in the United States. Some might say that's a bit misleading, but businesses do that all the time when they merge or buy another company's assets.
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TudorBrown
MUSA Citizen Joined: Aug 24 2009 Location: Highlands D. Status: Offline Points: 265 |
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Why does the video say something like "re-establish" Middletown as an art center in South Western Ohio.
When was Middletown ever an "art mecca", and why did they say the stain class business is the oldest in the country? ??? |
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Well, I DID decide to stop in at the MAC for a while. The only other regulars from this forum that I saw were What a City and VietVet. (This is NOT to say that others were not there. I do NOT know the identities of all posters, and I was not there for the entire time--only for a while between 5 and 6 pm.)
More later on my experience and observations...if I have time and am so inclined. Now I am off for a gyro and a beer or two,
PS: A large thank you to the unidentified kind lady who pulled up next to me at the stop light at Grand & Breiel and informed me that my left brake lamp was out!!! I took care of it immediately and am once again completely in compliance with the vehicle code.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Do you really want to honor these folks with our presence???
Why should a true art lover like myself want to associate with such juvenile poseurs, especially if they get their hands on some free alcohol??? It could even get dangerous. Who knows how these low-class freak-a-zoids that use handles such as Hugh Jorgan, Lou Sanus, Eric Shun, and Hugh Jaynis may react in person after they swill down a few mouthfuls of free cheap wine, especially if they hear some “inconvenient truths” that shatter their pleasant myths???
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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swohio75
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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The whole PAC thing is getting some regional coverage:
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Bocephus
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If its good enough for AJ its good enough for me,after all he is such a learned person on what is good for this city.
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What A City
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Is everyone ready to attend this from 4PM to 7? Got your questions ready for Verdin and his people? Would be interesting to see his reaction to some direct questions about his plans to develop this and the types and pay of the residual jobs that this venture is suppose to create. I'd like to see him and his artistic pals in action while being asked some blunt questions. Anyone going tonight?
As VietVet mentioned- don't forget to bring the appetizers and the Ripple Hermes. Show 'em MUSA does not come empty-handed to these upscale shindigs! Mr. Presta, would you be willing to forego those beers and burgers for one night and join us in the land of milk and honey? Spider and others- are you able to attend? Let's be on our best behavior. No belching or other disgusting sounds please. We want to make a good impression, especially for our detractors over on the Journal site. We want to be there and show some class around the many esteemed citizens that will be in attendance, right?
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