Councils 4-3 split raises concern

Mike_Presta wrote: <SPAN lang=EN> Mr. Picard is the Council Liaison to the Airport board/commission. Mr. Picard is also an attorney, an officer of the court, which bestows upon him a general obligation, in the complex functioning of the judicial system as a whole, to forge justice out of the application of the law and the simultaneous pursuit of the legitimate interests of all parties and the general good of society. It is currently AGAINST THE LAW for a non-resident to sit on any municipal board or commission in Middletown. </SPAN>

Not according to the Codified Ordinance section I posted above.

Yessir- that's what it says swohio75. Wonder why the Airport Commission was excluded from an all residence requirement? Are there any other boards that are excluded like this? Was the ordinance written to exclude this particular board? Calling the crack research department to provide answers as only you guys can!

VietVet wrote: Yessir- that's what it says swohio75. Wonder why the Airport Commission was excluded from an all residence requirement? Are there any other boards that are excluded like this? Was the ordinance written to exclude this particular board? Calling the crack research department to provide answers as only you guys can!

Yes. The Library Board for one because its jurisdiction also includes Monroe, Trenton and West Chester, and sounds like it is under the provisions of the Ohio Revised Code.

§ 1072.02 APPOINTMENT OF BOARD OF LIBRARY TRUSTEES.
The custody, control and administration, together with the erection and equipment of a free public library, shall be vested in a Board of Library Trustees, composed of six members, who shall be appointed by the City Council in accordance with the provisions of Ohio R.C. 3375.12.
(Ord. 3200, passed 5-23-1956.)

My guess is that the Tax Incentive Review Board does as well as because it involves school districts and there are several school districts (Middletown, Franklin and Lebanon) within Middletown's borders.

Mtown wrote: The 6 or so people that obsess about the city and city council on middletownusa need to get a life. Seriously. The 3 votes that were 4-3 were 2 that raised water and sewer rates. You would expect there to not be unanimous agreement on those issues. The other was on the update to the historic district ordinance. Mr Laubaugh didn't want any historic district ordinance at all. So you would expect there would be disagreement there as well. How would you middletownusa goofs have voted? Why don't you run for office. Or maybe you did and were rejected by the voters!

Who are you calling a goofs,you frigging idiot?

Well Voice of Reason, let me respond to your post.

"VietVet, what exactly is wrong with being non-confrontational"- Nothing wrong with being non-confrontational if you can obtain the correct outcome. When Picard and Laubach were going at it, I would have expected the mayor to interject at some point and gavel the situation before it got to the "if you'd just shut up....."comment by Picard. If I were mayor, not only would they have gotten the gavel and a cease and desist, when I heard that comment from Picard, it would have been a public admonishment as well. You seem to want to do it the "kinder/gentler" way. How would you have handled it? Cool-headed/non-confrontational like Mulligan, emotional like Laubach, Smith and Scott-Jones, barely breathing and disinterested like Becker, or totally detached like Allen, I suppose it takes all kinds.                                                                                                                                          "VietVet, working in the banking industry does not permit someone to "take off whenever they want." - Mulligan is a VP at the bank. I would imagine he can come and go when he wants with no questions asked. He attends many events during working hours, when lower echelon workers would be on the job, and seems available for all of them. I doubt very seriously that he is challenged by anyone when he wants to leave for a city function.

The city worker opened the manhole without entering the confined space initially. It was only after he was overcome by the lack of oxygen that he fell into the opening. No one was aware that there was a leak from the Air Products line in the opening. No amount of training could have told him what was on the other side of that manhole cover. As soon as he opened it, that was it. The firefighters, on the other hand, had an indication that the area was dangerous when they approached the opening and noticed he had fallen into the opening. Why they didn't use the proper PPE, especially being aware, is another issue.

Lastly, you talk about irresponsibility for an elected official to place blame on a city while being investigated?- Perhaps, but if the subject is irresponsibility concerning a city official, I can list many "irresponsible behavior by a city official" episodes that have occured over the last twenty plus years. Smith did nothing special nor nothing new concerning city official behavior. This is not the first time this has happened where a city official has "jumped the gun" on the comments. Gilleland and crew do it all the time and retract their statements when what they say doesn't come to fruition. JMO

I asked a council person about the airport commission and I was told that the change was made due to the airport becoming a "regional" airport. That is all that I know. Middletown Regional Airport/Hook Field.

Once again--why would anyone living outside of Middletown want to serve on local boards and commissions without compensation? Unless they operate a business within the city.

I am not sure I believe that, A business in this town would not be too happy with the way this city is being ran, as you seem to be.

just don't see a need to clarify myself to mtown,, especially when the answers are known.

wasteful wrote: .

Sir or Madam:

I need to respond to an issue that keeps coming up.  As I have stated in the past, I will not nor can I spend all day responding to blogs but I will to this one.  Reference is made to who voted for Tom Allen?  If my memory serves me correctly, when we voted on the floor, we all voted for Mr. Allen.  If reference is being made to executive session, I would like to know who gave information to the contrary?  I have no problem with justifying my vote on any issue.  I will not discuss any issue that arises in executive session and if someone is doing so, it will be addressed. I raised the issue of the 4-3 because each time I would make a request to look into an issue, four votes were needed and I simply saw a trend of the MAJOR issues.  Things always have a way of taking care of themselves.  As I have stated on numerous occasions, I do not expect everyone to care for me, but I made two promises when I ran for council.  I did not take anyone's money and I have held to my promises.  If you want to judge me for that, that is your choice.  I have three options next year and I plan to exercise one of them.  You all have the option to vote next year.

Ms.Scott-Jones--it was me who posted about "Who chose Mr.Allen?", since he was Council-appointed, and not citizen-elected.

Spider and Molly,