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To One and All~ Please do not misunderstand my point here. I love MUSA! I read it with great enthusiasm more than once a day. Of course all problems warrant discussion here. My complaint is the negative sarcasm that follows every post, whether the post started as a good thing or a bad thing. I challenge everyone to think of ONE good thing to say here every once in awhile. NOT to ignore the things that need change, but rather to remember the many good reasons for wanting them changed in the first place!
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I always enjoy reading about positive things in Middletown. However, I think, like many, that investing tax dollars in "maybes" is not the way to go when we are looking at cutting Public Safety and other services. One question I do have is about "payback" on loans we are giving private business. How long will it take for the PAC to refund to the city the money for improvements to thier building? I don't think private artists, seiing a painting every now and then will get this done. By a much larger degree, the city will be investing a total of $1,000,000 to $1,500,000 for Cincinnati State to move downtown, yet Cincy will not be paying property taxes to help pay off the huge debt. Of course we will own buildings, 2 of which will not be in use, so in actuality, what have we gained?Confused
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My dear Patti,

On the risk of sounding negative, may I remind you that TVMiddletown has an official policy of "GOOD news only"???  And the Middletown Journal is absolutely slanted towards whatever position City Hall espouses, which is "Bright Past, BRIGHTER Future".  In fact, they apparently shut down their blogs (several times in the past) rather than have folks post negative comments to their overly positive stories and editorials.  City Council certainly discourages anything but glowing reports.  (Just time positive comments in excess of the "3 miniute limit" and compare them to the time allotted any negative comments before the mayor speaks up.)
 
Al of that leaves nowhere for frustrated REALISTS to go but here on MiddletownUSA, so perhaps some of us (myself certainly included) do sound overly negative. 
 
However, do not think that our comments are not "negative" in a "positive" way!!!  As I mentioned above, it is NOT the "good things that need "fixing".  It is the PROBLEMS in our city that need attention and it is the PROBLEMS that "the powers that be" attempt to ignore!!!
 
The more they decry anyone bringing PROBLEMS to their attention as being "negative" instead of addressing those problems, the more likely those same people will keep speaking of the PROBLEMS more and more LOUDLY!!!
 
Once again:
1.  It is the PROBLEMS and not the "good things" that need fixing if we are to succeed as a city.
2.  There is absolutely NOWHERE else to go but here to speak of these problems
3.  Perhaps someone should try ADDRESSING the problems we raise, instead of merely calling us troublemakers for pointing out what our PUBLIC SERVANTS should be addressing!!!
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike, NEITHER Randy nor I ever suggested that problems be ignored. The whole point is to balance the good with the bad on stories/opinions posted here. Quite simply...never saying ONE good thing gives this site the reputation of being the place one goes to grouch and complain and nothing more. How sad is that?
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NO ONE wants to see this town flourish more than I do. I care what happens to this place and while it is hard to realize that it will never return to the town that brought such great times for me, it is not impossible for it to improve, using a different theme than the old industrial, blue collar theme. My frustration is generated from the mindset over the last 30 years, from the city leaders, and their apparent ablility to make incredibly stupid decisions in that time span. They have wasted so much money on projects which have been discussed here. We have had no council, since the 70's, that have been able to grow this town in a progressive manner. There doesn't seem to have been a game plan for development in the last 30 years, and they have now decided to rely on fed money to provide revenue, through programs that have lowered this town's stature to one of a welfare attraction. Basically, they have created a flea market/traveling circus/ghetto/handout atmosphere here as opposed to the hard-working, mostly middle-class, respectable residentsthat once comprised this community. The community leaders of the 50's and 60's would be shocked to see what the town has become. As shocked as I am. The negative things that are happening in this town so overwhelms the positive things, it is hard to maintain a positive attitude here. The only way to fix it, is to replace the entire hierarchy running this city from the city building to council to the influence of the chosen few and turn the ship in a new direction. One that makes sense. Let's face it, the current crew aren't getting the job done. JMO
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And, NO, keeping business and industry OUT, in favor of "olde tyme Middletowne" is NOT the answer.  That has not worked for the last 25 years, for the last 5 regurgitations of that plan, and it will not work if we plow even MORE tens of millions of taxpayers dollars into it.
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Randy and Patti,

Here’s the thing:

The good things about Middletown are not the things that need immediate and critical attention. It is the things that are wrong with our city that need to be fixed, not the good things.

The good things have not brought us down, nor wrecked our economy, nor driven out employers , nor kept out new business, nor raised taxes, nor ruined our schools, nor let our streets crumble, nor failed to fix our sewers, nor increased our poverty statistics, nor raised our taxes, nor corrupted our government, nor spent us into oblivion, nor otherwise made us the laughing stock of southwestern Ohio. 

The "good things" are NOT the reasons that OUR interchange is the very LAST interchange on I-75 between Cincinnati and Dayton to be developed, nor are the good things the reason that there are actually other interchanges being built (at costs of hundreds of millions of dollars) and being developed BEFORE developers come here.

We can concentrate on the good things until the cows come home, but nothing will change--because the good things do not need “fixing”.

It is the things that are wrong--the BAD things--that need our attention. Those are the things that have negatively affected our city, and those are the things that must be remedied before we can reverse the terrible course we have taken.

To keep our heads in the sand by simply lauding the good things and ignoring the bad will do nothing but guarantee our demise.

We cannot solve our problems unless we first admit that they exist!!!

So, go ahead and: "Yeah, Yeah, Rah, Rah, Middletown!" all that you want, but it won't SOLVE anything.  To HELP, we have to address our PROBLEMS!!! 
 
I sincerely hope that this helps you to understand.
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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What a great post, Randy! With all due respect towards everyone's frustrations, Middletown is still a great place with unique, caring residents. I will not give up or give in to the negatives when there are also positive things to focus on!!! This country is hurting everywhere, but better times will come- they always do!
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Earlier today I received a phone call from a local business owner and someone I consider to be a friend. I was asked why I have become so negative in my postings, it was explained to me that when I meet this business owner close to two years ago that I was very enthusiastic about Middletown and explained to them that MUSA was a positive web site and that is the news we focused on. While I stand by that when it comes to the main page and news stories posted there, I would agree that the forum has taken a turn for the negative, when it comes to posting, my posting included.

 

I was asked why I never post any of the good things going on in town, like the Greentree Project. My return comment was “you are welcome to post about any and everything you want on the site, why don’t you post about it?” If there is something going on in Middletown that you would like to see talked about post it, MUSA is a site for the people by the people.

 

Although I agree I should be posting about these things only because they are projects that can help our town and I am all about helping Middletown. I was then asked why I am so against the Cincy State campus and PAC? I would like to clarify that I am not against either of these projects, I am against the city using tax money, that could be spent on fixing roads or other projects. In my opinion if Cincy state and Pac think that Middletown is such a great place and they see such promise in moving here than they should have had no problem using their own money to fix up or even buy buildings. This is not what happened, we the tax payers are footing the bill in the hopes of this working out and in the end if it does not work out we are left holding the bag. My final argument was this, in a time when jobs and money is tight and with water bills being raised I do not like my tax money being spent on renovating buildings that will be used by two groups that have no ties or binding agreements to hold them here if this fails.

 

I did promise to work on posting some positive news, I just don’t see much at the moment. Do you?? 

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