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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vivian Moon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 28 2012 at 12:01pm

It is a political giveaway.
The problem is the Art Central group has no money.
The Moormans wanted to buy the building but Gilliland would not sell it.

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Please provide proof  that the Moormans wanted to buy this building and the City refused to sell.
I would just love to have a signed document stating this fact.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vivian Moon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 28 2012 at 11:51am

"The Art Central Foundation has leased the former Masonic Temple Building since it set up a downtown location several years ago."

Really? Then I have a problem with the city’s accounting department.
Under what name is Art Central leasing this property?

RESEARCH…..
Downtown Fund 2011 Revenue shows the following:
Gemini Music Studio
NAACP
Weinrich Law Office
Intergrated Electrical Solutions
Fred Ross
Landendorf Law Office
Hoglund Atty
Gary Swupe
Primary Heath Butler Co.
Don Imhof Law
Don Whittington
Miami Univ
Cox Ohio
Bill Bowen Law
Casper & Casper
Crown Castle
Mark McClure
Sonshine Products
Dan The Plant Man
Patriots Communications

Hmmm...Where did all these business go when the City took over these properties?
How much revenue has the city lost?
Hmmm…lots of questions seem to need answers.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vivian Moon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 28 2012 at 10:43am

    Hmmm…The ink wasn’t even dry on the deeds where the City had purchased all these properties from the estate that the Middletown Historical Society requested the Bank One building and Art Central requested the Masonic Temple building. So are MHS next in line for the property giveaway?
    Please remember that Ms Judy assured us that the City needed ALL the buildings from the estate even the Manchester Inn for
Cincy State
. Have any of the properties in question been offered for sale by any local real estate company? Did the city refuse any offers to sell these properties?
    Hmmm…Now we are being told that the
Masonic Temple
building has no value? What was the value and taxes on this building the day the City purchased this building from the estate?

How much money has the City REALLY lost on this little real estate deal for “Their Downtown”?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VietVet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 28 2012 at 7:42am
"So many complaints on this forum about Section 8......"

With good reason, digger-2, with good reason. The negatives concerning Section 8 have been documented in other posts on this forum. They overwhelm the positives.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pacman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 27 2012 at 6:28pm
Digger,

All previous post above spoke of the give-aways of these buildings purchased with taxpayer funds.  Let me ask you this digger are you a landlord and do you live in Middletown?  LH4 seems to refuse to answer these questions.  Maybe he's afraid we might find out who he is.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote digger-2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 27 2012 at 12:49pm
So many complaints on this forum about Section 8 and anyone who owns rental properties.......................
 
What about the Art Central Foundation giveaway plus other taxpayer-funded fiascos such as PAC, C-State, S. Main St. and the former downtown, extravagant NSP real estate ventures, etc., etc.?
 
If landlords wasted money like the City Manager and the Community Development Prosecutor they be shortly out of business!
 
 
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we want JOBS!!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VietVet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 27 2012 at 9:17am
So now, with this and the old senior center building, the city's building purchases with taxpayer money is in the phase of giving the properties away. Wonder if the Thatcher building purchases (the banks) not used by Cinn. State will also be given away in the future?

"The city purchased the former Masonic Temple, the former CG&E; Bank One and First National buildings for $300,000 in 2010. In February 2011, the city purchased the former Manchester Inn & Conference Center for $175,000."

"The city sold the former CG&E; building and donated the former senior center for $200,000 earlier this year for Cincinnati State Middletown developer Higher Education Partners"

THE GREAT BUILDING GIVEAWAY!!!!! GET YOURS WHILE THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOLKS! GREAT IDEA.....BUY 'EM, HOPE YOU CAN GET YOUR MONEY BACK AND WHEN YOU CAN'T.....GIVE 'EM AWAY!!! AND THE HITS JUST KEEP ON COMING IN THIS TOWN FOR THE TAXPAYER AS THEY ARE STIFFED AGAIN. INCREDIBLE.

“We believe that our downtown should be focused on the arts, education and entertainment,” said City Manager Judy Gilleland. “The Art Central Foundation fits well within our vision for downtown.”

GILLELAND AND OTHERS JUST DON'T GET IT DO THEY? THIS THEME DOESN'T APPEAL TO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN......AND SHE AND THE REST OF THE 5% OF THIS TOWN DON'T CARE. AMAZING ATTITUDE TOWARD THE CITIZENS.

"Wittman said she feels the eight-year-old organization has “had a large part in downtown’s revitalization efforts.”

“Our mission is making arts accessible to everybody downtown,” she said

LOOKS LIKE WITTMAN DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN ARE INTERESTED IN EITHER. THESE ARTZY PEOPLE ARE KINDA WRAPPED UP IN THEIR OWN LITTLE WORLD AREN'T THEY? HINT......WE DON'T WANT ONLY THE ARTS, WE WANT A DIVERSITY OF SHOPPING THAT APPEALS TO THE MASSES.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TonyB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 27 2012 at 8:58am
If the building didn't have much value, why did the city buy it? Oh yeah, I remember now, it was to CONTROL what happens in the downtown area. I don't have a problem with the Arts Central Foundation controlling the building; they were leasing it. I have a real problem with the city giving away real estate that they never should have bought in the first place.
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It is a political giveaway.
The problem is the Art Central group has no money.
The Moormans wanted to buy the building but Gilliland would not sell it.
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So--we are once again focusing on "arts" with another expensive property purchase being given away to a private entity.
 
The part I ? is the ACF director's statement that the first floor will be turned into a restaurant or retail entity.
Doesn't sound much like "arts" does it?
More taxpayer subsidized private business in that favored area, creating an issue about publicv-0subsidized private business competing with non-subsidized private businesses.
 
Sour grapes?
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Originally posted by SupportMiddletown SupportMiddletown wrote:

The building would cost a couple hundred thousand to demolish and would not hold very many parkings space, so the city is really giving away something that doesn't have much value anyway.
I don't get it.
 
Now that downtown is supposedly "booming", and businesses are clamoring to locate there, shouldn't the city at least TRY to sell this (and other) city-owned structures to try to recoup some of the taxpayer funds that have been expended there???
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SupportMiddletown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 26 2012 at 11:34pm
The building would cost a couple hundred thousand to demolish and would not hold very many parkings space, so the city is really giving away something that doesn't have much value anyway.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LMAO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 26 2012 at 9:58pm
 
Glad are "Spineless Ones" gives building away or for dirt cheap.Just cant see a whole lot of people that enjoys arts that much.Except for the snobs that live on South Main.
Gilleland said it’s “very important” the city preserves the downtown’s historic structures, such as the Masonic Arts Building, and “if we can return a historic structure to productive use, that’s a win-win for everyone.
Earth to Judy,Wake the hell Up!!!!!Win-win for the crybabys on South Main.When will we read that you Sh*T out money to fund there pretty lights?
The city purchased the former Masonic Temple, the former CG&E; Bank One and First National buildings for $300,000 in 2010. In February 2011, the city purchased the former Manchester Inn & Conference Center for $175,000.
Shouldnt that read,Taxpayers bought those buildings?
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City may donate building to Art Central Foundation

By Michael D. Pitman

Staff Writer

MIDDLETOWN —

City council is expected to hold the first of two readings Nov. 6 that will donate the former Masonic Temple Building, also known as the Temple Arts Building, to the Art Central Foundation.

The Art Central Foundation has leased the former Masonic Temple Building since it set up a downtown location several years ago.

“We believe that our downtown should be focused on the arts, education and entertainment,” said City Manager Judy Gilleland. “The Art Central Foundation fits well within our vision for downtown.”

Art Central Foundation president Sue Wittman said immediate plans are to fix a gutter issue in the rear of the building and to rent the first floor to a retail or restaurant business.

An endowment is going to be formed to help with building maintenance and operations, and this year’s foundation art auction and wine tasting — which is set for 6 to 9 p.m. today at Forest Hills Country Club, 791 Fourth St. — will help with that, she said.

The $30 admission price will allow patrons to bid on art and taste more than a dozen French wines. The event will be catered by Brio’s at The Greene in Beavercreek and Mockingbird Cafe and @ the Square in downtown Middletown. There will be about 14 types of French wine to taste

About $5,000 is raised annually, Wittman said .

“We’re hoping that with some of the donations we’ve got, we’ll exceed that this year,” she said.

Gilleland said it’s “very important” the city preserves the downtown’s historic structures, such as the Masonic Arts Building, and “if we can return a historic structure to productive use, that’s a win-win for everyone.

Wittman said she feels the eight-year-old organization has “had a large part in downtown’s revitalization efforts.”

“Our mission is making arts accessible to everybody downtown,” she said.

The city purchased the former Masonic Temple, the former CG&E; Bank One and First National buildings for $300,000 in 2010. In February 2011, the city purchased the former Manchester Inn & Conference Center for $175,000.

The city sold the former CG&E; building and donated the former senior center for $200,000 earlier this year for Cincinnati State Middletown developer Higher Education Partners.

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