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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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Maybe a MiddletownUSA outing! |
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Dean
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Lets go play golf and keep it open?
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409
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From MJ:
Weatherwax to remain golf course in 2015 Middletown golf pro Jim Kraft signs one-year lease with property owner MIDDLETOWN — Weatherwax Golf Course will remain a golf course — at least for another year — after a local golf professional finalized a deal Thursday with the landowner to lease the property through November 2015. Jim Kraft, of WMVH LLC, signed a one-year lease with Myron Bowling Auctioneers, Inc., to keep Weatherwax open as a golf course. Both parties declined to disclosed the value of the lease agreement, but confirmed that it goes into effect Nov. 3 and runs through Nov. 1, 2015. Myron Bowling, a Hamilton auctioneer who bought the 36-hole golf course from the city of Middletown for $1.6 million, said Kraft has an option to continue to lease the property “for as many years as he’d like to after that.” “Everybody wants a golf course, and now it’s a golf course again,” Bowling said in a phone interview with the Journal-News. “If you want it to stay a golf course, then go golf.” Some residents and local golfers worried that Weatherwax might be leased or sold for some other use. When Bowling closed the deal with the city last month for Weatherwax, he indicated there was a “50-50 possibility” that it could re-open as a golf course next year. In fact, an auction for the property, equipment and other items was scheduled for Nov. 15, but after the deal with Kraft, the event has been canceled, Bowling said. He said nothing, including golf carts and other equipment, belonging to the golf course has been sold. Bowling confirmed there were parties other than Kraft interested in Weatherwax, and at least one person had a use other than a golf course in mind for the land located in Madison Twp. “But that didn’t come to fruition,” Bowling said. “We were on a timeline, and he (Kraft) had a ready offer so we kept it a golf course.” Kraft, 57, of Middletown, has 28 years of experience in the golf industry, which includes having been a golf pro at Pleasant Hill Golf Club since 1988. He said his motivation for leasing Weatherwax is simple. “I didn’t want to see it close, and I thought it was a good business opportunity,” said Kraft, who plays Weatherwax about twice a week during the golf season. “When I saw the auction sign up at Weatherwax I asked them in they were entertaining anyone on leasing the golf course, and they said yes.” Kraft said the deal took about three weeks to negotiate after he first approached Bowling about the lease. He said his next steps will be to familiarize himself with the grounds and course operations. Kraft said he plans to keep just about everything the same at Weatherwax, but hasn’t made any final decisions about staffing yet. Dave Tieman, the longtime golf professional at Weatherwax, will work his last day there on Nov. 2. “It’s going to be a privilege to serve our customers and the Middletown area,” said his brother David Kraft. “We are really looking forward to it.” City Manager Doug Adkins said Thursday any plan that keeps the golf course open and available to the public is great for the citizens of Middletown. “I hope the course remains open for years to come and wish any operator good luck in their endeavor,” Adkins said in an email to the Journal-News. |
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Alien
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Kinda got off topic with a discussion about Doug's house. I am hearing that a golf course operator has been working with Bowling on a lease for next year but doesn't sound too positive.
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Rhodes
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Not sure if this was posted yet or not, but just ran across the listing for Weatherwax up for sale. $2,250,000
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over the hill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 19 2012 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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Speaking of the Sec 8 fiasco: I suppose most have forgotten the lies and deception on that and we know how that ended. He can blame it all on Judy saying he was just "doing what he was told" but that only goes so far. Too many nasty thing from his office to believe it was all Judy. He loved the power and he's loving this power even more. Saying all the right things to win over as many as he can. Wel'll see if a tiger can change his spots. Sec8 is gone. Officially Nov 1 . Nelson & Nelson gone Jan 1. So I've heard.
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VietVet
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Look north and east.....Oaks, Manchester Manor, DiVinci Dr. Areas around Thorn Hill, Rosedale from Milton out to Breiel are nice, older neighborhoods. Dorset, Eaton Dr. McGee- very nice older homes. As swohio mentions, the old hospital area has great appeal. Sadly, as time goes by, the neighborhoods around Euclid and Kensington, once very nice, have lost a step or two in prestige. Like stacked dominos, the neighborhoods starting south and west and heading north and east are falling. Kids go to Fenwick or Monroe schools if possible. Middletown public is not a choice if quality is important. Too many indicators as to a poor to mediocre education to be had here. Not at all like it use to be. |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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Talking Heads
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He will take his glorious time in selecting a new home. After all, HE IS the City Manager. We go by Mr. A-Almighty's rules now, even though we's all know this is just a stepping stone to the next gom'ment job. He continues to hide behind sheep's cloth. He is not a Shepard. Him pushing the sale of Weatherwax in the first place is another Sin, not the success he preaches. He thinks we dumb.
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acclaro
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He'll but Bill Akers Sr house on Rosedale.
He'll send his kids to Fenwick. He'll watch Middletown continue its decline, while hiring mothpieces, pr interns, ED staff, to tell others how Middletown was in the past, but turning the corner. In other words, same story the past 30 years. When is the HUD announcement coming by the way, the press release delayed for months. |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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swohio75
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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It is a fair question. I'd try and stay in the $185-$240k price range. Really isn't a reason to go beyond that. As far as neighborhoods, if I were he, I would consider homes around the old hospital and/or the rosedale/milton/fleming area, depending on taste. I think it would send a good message if he picks an older, more central neighborhood, indicating his has faith in Middletown's established neighborhoods. It would also put him closer to the City Building. As far as schools are concerned, if he purchased a home in Renaissance, kids would go to either Franklin or Lebanon, spending on which section of the neighborhood the house is in. Personally speaking, I see no issues sending kids to Middletown. Making education a priority begins in the home, and kids can excel in the MCSD. |
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Miss Kitty
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Although Mr A didn't create all of the problems, he did make a choice to move here with his family and is being paid well to do just that. There are plenty of nice neighborhoods where he can purchase a home. Now that he is a Middletown Boy, it would only be proper to send his children to Middletown City Schools. I believe if you work for a city you should live in that city and send your children to their city schools and that should go for ALL city employees, not just the city manager.
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spiderjohn
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if YOU were moving here now with a large family and had Mr.A's income range, where would YOU locate, and how much would YOU spend?
Where would you send your children to school? just wondering, since we are all pretty familiar with the community--fair ?? |
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spiderjohn
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lol--tough bunch here
I would be wary if moving here for the first time while a very nice home can be found for low $$, job security and quality of life are huge factors then throw in a reasonably large family and it becomes a very important decision he didn't cause the majority of our mess, and gets a chance to fix it time will tell.... |
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Miss Kitty
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The house looks about as boring as Doug does!
Maybe he's waiting for the Bank One/Goetz Tower condos to be finished or even the Journal Building condos! |
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Dougie's current home is <***GASP***> VINYL SIDING!!!
Are Kohler and the Historic Commission aware of this???
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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swohio75
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Five minutes of quick research will give you his address in Mason and then you can see that Doug's house is on the market.
Cut the guy some slack. I found the budget presentation thoughtful and goal-oriented. One of the best I've seen in a long time for the city. http://sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1411037/5458-Concord-Crossing-Dr-Mason-OH-45040 |
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Neil Barille
MUSA Resident Joined: Jul 07 2010 Status: Offline Points: 238 |
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I've thought from the beginning that Adkins is not moving here. At most he would rent a cheap apartment and claim he is a resident.
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over the hill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 19 2012 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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There are plenty of nice homes available in Middletown with 4 bed rooms at a reasonable price less that what he's asking for his.Some in the Oaks and Manchester Manor. What's he waiting for? Unless he's upside down in his mortgage. I don't think that's the case. IMO
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middletownscouter
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 11 2010 Location: Sunset Park Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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Doing a search of real estate records on the Butler County Auditor's website, it does not appear that Mr. Adkins owns any real estate in the city of Middletown or Butler County in general.
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acclaro
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What house did Mr. Adkins buy in Middletown before his contractual date of 6 months of taking the job.....or is he just commuting, and living a few days a week in an apartment. Probably the latter.
I'd last .5 day on accomplishments he cited in the private sector before being fired. Oh how I wish I had studied for the MPA, and been a city manager, retired at 50, triple dipped, and never had a day of stress from job related issues. |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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bumper
MUSA Citizen Joined: Feb 01 2010 Location: over here Status: Offline Points: 307 |
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City Manager Doug Adkins reviewed the various accomplishments of the city in 2014 that included the sale of the Bank One/Goetz Tower, the former Manchester Inn, the Sonshine Building, Se bald Park, Weathercocks Golf Course, yo ED!! what you smoking??? closing the city’s public housing authority, placing the Community Center under CBI leadership and an increase in income tax revenues... Mr. doug how in the world can you call those accomplishments?? geeeez !!!
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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And the sign says "Business Opportunity"
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FmrMide81
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At this point what you need is someone who can disable bulldozers-cuz the fairways and the rough are about to become one and the same...
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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spider, you raise several good points.
I think someone who knew how to run and promote golf courses would do very well and be very profitable. Golf is on the downswing right now. All golf courses left standing after this downturn will become gold mines. We need someone with vision and marketing experience to take over Weatherwax Golf Course.
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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not directly
thought greens fees were too low weren't groundskeepers on city wage/benny packages? not particularly promoted well imo but I am not close enough to know that much about it so I should probably just shut up though I also want to play there again and will miss this gem of a local treat |
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