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    Posted: Jan 19 2010 at 10:10pm

Did not check it for accuracy, but it applies.  Even though the "doc" references African Americans I'm sure this applies to all races:

Please meet Dr Starner Jones from Jackson , Mississippi . [see photo below]. 
 
His short 2-paragraph letter to the White House accurately puts the blame on a "Culture Crisis" instead of a "Health Care Crisis". Its worth a quick read:  
  

Starner Jones,   MD             
 I am a seventh  generation Mississippian and wanted to come back  here after going somewhere else for college and medical  school.. My extracurricular interests are golf, hunting,  fishing and college football.   

 
Dear  Sirs: 

   "During my last  night's shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of  evaluating a patient with an expensive shiny gold tooth,  multiple elaborate expensive tattoos, a very expensive brand  of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped  with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone.. Glancing  over the chart, one could not help noticing her  payer status: Medicaid. She smokes more  than one costly pack of cigarettes every day  and, somehow, still has money to buy beer.   

   And  our Congress expects  me to pay for this woman's health  care? Our  nation's health  care crisis is  not a shortage of  quality hospitals, doctors or  nurses.  It is a crisis of  culture ˜ a culture in  which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on  vices while refusing to take  care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health  insurance.  A culture that  thinks "I can do whatever  I want to because someone else will always take care of  me".  Life is really  not that hard. Most of us reap  what we  sow.  Don't you agree?  
                                                                                       
STARNER JONES,  MD
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Originally posted by Pacman Pacman wrote:

With all the seniors gathered there , it will be just like a nursing home-- only free.
And if there is any justice in the world, they would soon be joined by a few senators and representatives.  So the seniors could gang up and administer a little "prison justice" for causing all of this in the first place!!! LOL LOL LOL
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Ah Gemneye70 Satire is lost on you.  This little diatribe, just goes to show you where the priorites are in health care.  Free health care for the Cons and and the Elderly are going to get well you know the story.
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Gemneye I used to be a Republican till George W. came along and what a winner he was he lied to every one and acted like he was a Conservative so he could help make his filthy rich buddies even richer.But It only took me about two days after Obama got elected to remember the very reason that I tended to lean towards Republicans at voting time and have since last January realized that it matters not what party the politician makes claims to,the majority do not represent the people that elected them.Hell I would allmost be glad to see ole George W. back in office (did I just say that) if it meant that we could get rid of Obama and his taxocrat buddies.I hope that we can survive until 2012.
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Gem ever heard of SCHIP, it shows the problems that occur when you try to throw money at a problem and not deal with the underlying issues.
 

Put the children back in SCHIP

May 24, 2007 | Author: Devon Herrick

Originally published in: The Washington Times

A hot topic in the halls of state and federal government these days is health insurance, specifically children's health insurance.

The number of uninsured children in the U.S. is estimated at 8 million and counting. So many uninsured children must mean we're a failure on a grand scale. It means the government must step in to fix the crisis before children start dropping dead in the streets.

If you listen to most politicians, the oft-repeated policy prescription is to expand the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). The SCHIP program is a shared-responsibility entitlement. States pay an average of 30 percent of the program costs, and receive federal matching funds based on the state's population, its number of low-income children, and its number of low-income without insurance. States have three years to use their federal allotment or lose it.

In 2003, states had to return nearly $1 billion to the federal government. They quickly learned their lesson, however, and started expanding their SCHIP programs in an attempt to maximize their federal subsides.

Yet after 10 years of throwing tax dollars at this problem, an estimated 17 states now face budget shortfalls and, surprisingly, fewer children have insurance. How can this be? When states sought to use up their funds, they started covering children above the income requirement and started adding adults to the roles. In many cases, single adults with no children.

For example, of Minnesota's SCHIP enrollees, 87 percent were adults in 2005. Arizona has one of the highest rates of uninsured children in the country at 16 percent, yet 56 percent of its SCHIP enrollees are adults.

So, a program named for helping children now cannot help many uninsured children because the money is tied up covering adults. From this experience, it would seem intuitive that spending more money to continue down this path will do little for the 8 million uninsured children nationwide.

In 2003, when the states had to return the $1 billion, there was a major push to spend the leftover funds on outreach programs. Presumably, there was unspent money because not all eligible children were enrolled.

There are now an estimated 5.75 million children eligible for government aid but not enrolled (this includes Medicaid and SCHIP). That's more than 70 percent of uninsured children. So much for outreach.

Another reason this program's expansion offers little hope for reducing the number of uninsured children is what economists call "crowd-out." When government raises the income qualification, people who already have insurance often drop their private coverage, including employer coverage, to join an entitlement program they think is free. In fact, an estimated 50 cents to 75 cents spent on expanding government entitlement programs cover those who dropped private insurance.

That means we will spend more money to cover people who already had insurance. When states spend all their money, they come to back to the federal government with their hands out for more. And under SCHIP's provisions, they'll get it.

Rather than spend billions of taxpayer dollars to encourage parents to drop private coverage, we should encourage states to reform their insurance regulations to create more competition in health insurance, and as a result, more affordable and attractive options.

For instance, states should let insurers create health plans that do not have to cover a host of expensive mandated benefits. Taking it a step further, if the government allowed interstate competition in health insurance, any insurer licensed in one state would be free to offer products to residents in other states.

Another idea would be for states to subsidize private coverage when parents have access to an employer plan but have not enrolled themselves or their children because they couldn't afford their share of the premiums. Oregon has tried a similar idea for their Medicaid beneficiaries, with much success.

SCHIP was designed to achieve one specific goal: insurance for children. That goal has been lost in the mad scramble to not lose federal money. SCHIP should be scaled back to fulfill its original intent, and we need to explore better options for achieving that intent.

Throwing money at a problem has never worked. It didn't work in 1997 when SCHIP started, and it won't work today. We need better solutions that don't involved burdening American taxpayers and stunting our economy. Our children deserve better, and so do our hard-working, tax-paying adults.

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Gemneye70 you need to go see "Girls Gone Wild" and put a smile on your face tonight..  I have more post on this site and have probably taken part in more intelligent conversations here then you ever had in your life.  Now not all of the converstions here will get you into the Mensa Club especially with people who fly off the handle and throw temper tantrums.  If you want to have a conversation lets have at it, then when we are done you can throw another temper tantrum ok....I won't mind......really I won't.
 
By the way the Post had nothing to do with children and I personally don't expect anything from either the United States Government or The State of Ohio Government and I have never in 52 years taken a federal or state handout of any kind period. 
 
Here you go Gem some of that Intelligent conversation you are dying for from your Democratic Friends, on national Radio to boot.
 
You know Ed don't you,  he has a show on the liberal All Star Channel MSNBC:*
 
 
*this post comes under the heading of being a smartass.Big%20smile
 
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Gemneye:
I agree with you whole-heartedly!!
And those people who think they know everything are especially irritating to those of us who actually do, aren't they??? LOL LOL LOL
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Your post is a perfect example of those who think the govt should not be involved in anything unless it benefits you...when medicaid and medicare were started conservatives called in socialism...now you accept it and couldn't fathom it ever going away.  At the same time, you seem to think children in need of care should be on their own.
 
I am not an advocate for universal health care, but I think the elderly and children should be guaranteed coverage somehow.
 
Also a perfect example of why nothing ever gets accomplished in this country.  We all know you and a handful of others on this site are the experts and authority on just about every issue in the world, hell, you tell us everyday.  Instead of having an intelligent discussion or actually discussing issues, you put some smartass post seeking to show how those that have ideas that differ from you are stupid and have nothing to add to the conversation.
 
Thanks for making the world a better place...especially as we celebrate today's holiday.
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Universal Health Care = The Solution:

          
    
While discussing the upcoming Universal Health Care Program with my sister-in-law the other day, I think we have found the solution.  

 

I am sure you have heard the ideas that if you're a senior you need to suck it up and give up the idea that you need any health care.  

 

A new hip?  Unheard of.  We simply can't afford to take care of you anymore.  

 

You don't need any medications for your high blood pressure, diabetes, heart problems, etc..  Let's take care of the young people.  After all, they will be ruling the world very soon.

So here is the solution.
  

 

When you turn 70, you get a gun and 3 bullets 

 

You are allowed to shoot one senator and 2 representatives.  

 

Of course, you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a day, a roof over your head and all the health care you need!  New teeth, great!  Need glasses, no problem!  New hip, knee, kidney, lung, heart?  

 

Well bring it on.  

 

And who will be paying for all of this?  

 

The same government that just told you that you are too old for health care.  

 

With all the seniors gathered there , it will be just like a nursing home-- only free. 

 

And, since you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income tax.

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