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    Posted: Jan 28 2009 at 3:19pm
$355,000,000.00 to prevent STD's that's an economy Stimulizer alright.  I put that right on up there with Pelosi's Birth Control stimulis request, at least that got axed.
 
$650,000,000.00 on top of the already $1,000,000,000.00+ spent on Analog to Digital converter boxes for those people who have been living in a hole for the last 18 months.
 
Read and enjoy all 647 pages to see where your tax dollars and your childrens tax dollars will be going for the next 2 to 3 years and who knows how long to pay for this mess.Angry
 
They should call this the "Citizens of the USA getting the Shaft Bill".
 
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I am not happy about all this wasteful spending.

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Here is a more comprehensive breakdown:
Here are the chief provisions of the bill:
Tax cuts
  • Payroll-tax holiday: $99 billion
  • Expanded earned-income tax credit: $25 billion
  • Tuition tax credit: $10 billion
  • Business expensing tax breaks: $90 billion
  • Renewable-energy tax credit: $20 billion
Relief
  • Expanded unemployment insurance: $42 billion
  • Health insurance for unemployed: $40 billion
  • Expanded food stamps: $20 billion
  • Housing assistance: $11 billion
  • Supplemental Security Income payments: $4 billion
  • Welfare: $3 billion
Infrastructure
  • Highways: $30 billion
  • School renovation: $20 billion
  • Health information technology: $17 billion
  • Transportation projects: $13 billion
  • Water projects: $8.4 billion
  • Military and V.A. construction: $7 billion
  • Accelerated deployment of broadband: $5.6 billion
Help for state and local governments
  • Medicaid cost sharing: $87 billion
  • State grants: $79 billion
  • State and local bond tax credit: $42 billion
  • Community development: $5 billion
  • Rural development: $4 billion
Energy efficiency
  • Federal energy-efficiency projects: $22 billion
  • Energy-efficiency grants: $18.5 billion
  • Smart electric grid: $11 billion
  • Renewable-energy loan guarantees: $8 billion
Human capital
  • Education programs: $29 billion
  • Pell grants: $18 billion
  • Job training: $4.6 billion
  • Scientific research: $3 billion
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The Bill pssed the house with $819 Billion, no Republican voted for it was pretty much a party line vote with 12 Dems defecting for now.  But is still just the House Version and has a ways to go.  Jonathan some of the project stuck in this Bill are just vrazy.  Like $200,000,000.00 for new sod for the Mall in Washington.  $25,000,000.00 to build ATV recreational trails.
 
All that and only $30 Billion for Highways and Bridges not even 4%....hmmmmmmm.  Hopefully the Senate does a better Job than the House has.
 
On top of that it is projected that it will cost $367,000,000,000.00 to just finance this $819,000,000,000.00 Bill.
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HEAVIEST ELEMENT DISCOVERED 
  
Research has led to discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neuron, 25 assistant neurons, 88 deputy neurons and 198 assistant deputy neurons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.  These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.  Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be detected because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.  A minute amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that normally takes less than a second to take as long as 4 years to complete. 
  
Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2-6 years; it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neurons and deputy neurons exchange places. In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization causes more morons to become neurons, forming isodopes. 
  
This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical morass. When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, which has half as many peons but twice the number of morons.

 

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John Boehner: GOP has better stimulus ideas

Thursday, January 29, 2009

As some leaders in Washington plot how best to spend your tax dollars on bloated government programs, House Republicans have developed a plan to put money back in the hands of American families, small businesses, entrepreneurs and the self-employed. The latest spending package being discussed is already at $825 billion with some pushing for it to go over $1 trillion. But this isn't our money we're spending – the money will come from our children and grandchildren, and I believe this is simply too much to put on their backs.

The goals of any economic recovery package should be job creation, job preservation and spurring consumer spending. We need to let people keep more of the money they earn. We need to lower tax rates so that families and businesses can invest their money or save it, both of which are good for our economy.

But investing a trillion dollars in government spending isn't going to get our economy back on track. In fact, a recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office casts doubt on whether the congressional Democrats' spending plan will actually have an immediate impact, which is the true test of any economic recovery proposal. Just 7 percent of the proposed infrastructure spending — $26 billion out of $274 billion – would be funneled into our economy by the end of this budget year in September. Worse, just one in seven dollars of a massive $18.5 billion expenditure on "energy efficiency" and "renewable energy programs" would be spent within the next 18 months. And plans to bring broadband Internet service to rural and under-served areas will take years to implement.

Repairing aging infrastructure such as bridges and roads and bringing new technology to rural residents are fine programs, but they're not going to create either the short-term economic conditions necessary to pull us out of the current recession. President Obama asked House Republicans for our ideas on how to help our economy, and we formed a working group to develop our proposals.

Immediate tax relief

for working families

The fastest way to get money back into the pockets of working families is to lower taxes, allowing them to keep more of what they earn. The two lowest tax rates in the U.S. are 10 percent and 15 percent; 45 million married couples and 13.5 million heads of households pay at the 10 percent rate while nearly 40 million married couples and 7.7 million heads of households pay at the 15 percent rate. House Republicans propose lowering these tax rates from 15 percent to 10 percent and from 10 percent to 5 percent, which will immediately put money where it will do the most good: In the hands of working families. Under our proposal, every taxpaying-family's gross income will increase by $500 for those in the current 10-percent bracket and $1,200 for those in the current 15-percent bracket.

Help for America's

small businesses

Small businesses (those employing less than 500 individuals) employ about half of all Americans and in 2005, they created nearly 1 million net new jobs – or put another way, small businesses created 78.9 percent of all new jobs. Yet these economic engines can pay up to 35 percent of their income in taxes to the federal government.

The U.S. is ranked 29th out of 30 among the major economies in the world for our business tax rate; only Japan taxes its companies more harshly. House Republicans propose allowing small businesses to take a tax deduction equal to 20 percent of their income, which will immediately free up funds to retain current employees and hire new ones.

No tax increases to pay for spending

Congressional Democrats' proposal includes record levels of government spending that will substantially increase the current deficit. House Republicans are concerned that this level of spending will result in some proposing near-term tax increases on American families. In fact, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., was recently quoted in the Washington Post (Jan. 8) stating that she'd like to see tax hikes "as soon as possible."

House Republicans are insisting that any recovery package include a provision precluding any tax increases now or in the future to pay for this new spending. House Republicans believe that any spending should be paid for by reducing other government spending, not raising taxes.

Assistance for

the unemployed

Unless you've received or are currently receiving unemployment benefits, you probably don't know that the federal government taxes these benefits, forcing people to give up about 11 percent of their benefit. House Republicans propose making unemployment benefits tax-free so people between jobs can have the full benefit of this income to provide for their families.

Stabilizing home values

The first indication that many Americans had that our economy was slipping were reports of falling home values and a stagnant market. Now the real-estate market is frozen as potential buyers wait for prices to fall even more, and as sellers watch and wonder how much lower prices will go. To encourage the kind of buying-and-selling activity we need to jump-start our economy, House Republicans propose a home-buyer's credit of $7,500 for buyers who can make a minimum down-payment of 5 percent.

U.S. House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-West Chester Twp., represents Ohio's 8th District.ClapThumbs%20UpBig%20smile

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From The Wall Street Journal

 

My Bipartisan Stimulus

Let's cut taxes, as I want, and spend more, as Obama would like. 

By RUSH LIMBAUGH

There's a serious debate in this country as to how best to end the recession. The average recession will last five to 11 months; the average recovery will last six years. Recessions will end on their own if they're left alone. What can make the recession worse is the wrong kind of government intervention.

I believe the wrong kind is precisely what President Barack Obama has proposed. I don't believe his is a "stimulus plan" at all -- I don't think it stimulates anything but the Democratic Party. This "porkulus" bill is designed to repair the Democratic Party's power losses from the 1990s forward, and to cement the party's majority power for decades.

Keynesian economists believe government spending on "shovel-ready" infrastructure projects -- schools, roads, bridges -- is the best way to stimulate our staggering economy. Supply-side economists make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound. That happened under JFK, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. We know that when tax rates are cut in a recession, it brings an economy back.

Recent polling indicates that the American people are in favor of both approaches.

Notwithstanding the media blitz in support of the Obama stimulus plan, most Americans, according to a new Rasmussen poll, are skeptical. Rasmussen finds that 59% fear that Congress and the president will increase government spending too much. Only 17% worry they will cut taxes too much. Since the American people are not certain that the Obama stimulus plan is the way to go, it seems to me there's an opportunity for genuine compromise. At the same time, we can garner evidence on how to deal with future recessions, so every occurrence will no longer become a matter of partisan debate.

Congress is currently haggling over how to spend $900 billion generated by American taxpayers in the private sector. (It's important to remember that it's the people's money, not Washington's.) In a Jan. 23 meeting between President Obama and Republican leaders, Rep. Eric Cantor (R., Va.) proposed a moderate tax cut plan. President Obama responded, "I won. I'm going to trump you on that."

Yes, elections have consequences. But where's the bipartisanship, Mr. Obama? This does not have to be a divisive issue. My proposal is a genuine compromise.

Fifty-three percent of American voters voted for Barack Obama; 46% voted for John McCain, and 1% voted for wackos. Give that 1% to President Obama. Let's say the vote was 54% to 46%. As a way to bring the country together and at the same time determine the most effective way to deal with recessions, under the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan of 2009: 54% of the $900 billion -- $486 billion -- will be spent on infrastructure and pork as defined by Mr. Obama and the Democrats; 46% -- $414 billion -- will be directed toward tax cuts, as determined by me.

Then we compare. We see which stimulus actually works. This is bipartisanship! It would satisfy the American people's wishes, as polls currently note; and it would also serve as a measurable test as to which approach best stimulates job growth.

I say, cut the U.S. corporate tax rate -- at 35%, among the highest of all industrialized nations -- in half. Suspend the capital gains tax for a year to incentivize new investment, after which it would be reimposed at 10%. Then get out of the way! Once Wall Street starts ticking up 500 points a day, the rest of the private sector will follow. There's no reason to tell the American people their future is bleak. There's no reason, as the administration is doing, to depress their hopes. There's no reason to insist that recovery can't happen quickly, because it can.

In this new era of responsibility, let's use both Keynesians and supply-siders to responsibly determine which theory best stimulates our economy -- and if elements of both work, so much the better. The American people are made up of Republicans, Democrats, independents and moderates, but our economy doesn't know the difference. This is about jobs now.

The economic crisis is an opportunity to unify people, if we set aside the politics. The leader of the Democrats and the leader of the Republicans (me, according to Mr. Obama) can get it done. This will have the overwhelming support of the American people. Let's stop the acrimony. Let's start solving our problems, together. Why wait one more day?

Mr. Limbaugh is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host.

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In otherwords it doesn't stimulate the economy...........
 
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This "porkulus" bill is designed to repair the Democratic Party's power losses from the 1990s forward, and to cement the party's majority power for decades.

Well Said Rush!

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Wow, well at least now I know where you guys stand on national politics!!!!!
and I thought I was talking to a bunch of angry liberals.
 
Ya know, What do Limbaugh and Madonia have in common
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Hey lets just call this what it is....
 
The democrats spending bill.
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Answer: Limbaugh & Madonia .....They both are egomaniac's.
 
With his dito head following.... He loves his media  power with no responsibilty required.
Can you imagine ....All this good fortune delevered by the left wing liberal media he has such distaste for. How Ironic.
 
 
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Migh as well put this here too.
 
Why Keynesian Economics Will Not Work:
 
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