Middletown Cemetery Fund
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Category: Middletown City Government
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Printed Date: May 15 2024 at 5:03am
Topic: Middletown Cemetery Fund
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Subject: Middletown Cemetery Fund
Date Posted: Jun 05 2009 at 3:48pm
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June 5, 2009 Friday Ms Gilleland and City Council I just called Mr. Ron Phelps to inquire where and how I was to be reimbursed the funds that I spent for the Now for a little history….In 2005 the Middletown Historical Society agreed to act as the fiscal agent for the Middletown Cemetery Committee to obtain grants and donation for the Last month I requested a $1,000 of my money from this account to make a payment to my attorney to save the vault and was refused the funds. However now I’m told that Mr. Phelps has ordered that payment for the mulch come from my account. I informed you in writing in February 2009 that I would no longer fund the Middletown Cemetery maintenance. I did not give anyone permission to use any of these funds. I would advise you speak with Mr. Ashworth and Mr. Mulligan about this matter. Vivian Combs Moon |
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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 05 2009 at 4:51pm
Vivian- Questions beg to be asked from your information. First, why can't the Midd. Historical Society account for this money? No books to record money transactions? Bull! Didn't they give you a receipt for the deposit? Who was the money handler for them? If they can't account for the money, then it must be assumed that it was "appropriated" (a politically correct word for stolen) Did the city give you a receipt for the $1298.41 deposited with them? If not, why not? How can this Phelps guy just give you this "not anymore" crap? Does he have authority over the fund itself? If not, he should butt out. No way should the mulch be coming out of your pocket, especially since all this is the city's responsibility in the first place!! With Phelps ordering payment to you for the mulch, apparently Ginger Smith lied to you on you having control of the account.I guess that this proves that anytime you enter into a "partnership" with this city, you better have a legal contract signed with them as they appear to "change the rules of engagement" quite often. Another example of inviting the average citizen to participate and then sticking it to them--- kinda like the Finance and Street Committees where they invited the public in but wanted you to keep quiet while the "big adults" discussed business. Disgusting! 
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jun 05 2009 at 5:47pm
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First, why can't the Midd. Historical Society account for this money? No books to record money transactions?...NOPE!
Didn't they give you a receipt for the deposit?...NOPE!
Who was the money handler for them?...Sam Ashwoth & Larry Mulligan Did the city give you a receipt for the $1298.41 deposited with them?...NOPE! How can this Phelps guy just give you this "not anymore" crap? Does he have authority over the fund itself?...I don't have a clue who is over this fund. I was assured it was my money to be used only by me...This is the same money that I have used over the past 5 years for research and restoring the cemetery. No way should the mulch be coming out of your pocket, especially since all this is the city's responsibility in the first place!!...They just want to stick it to me one more time because they want to shut me up. I guess that this proves that anytime you enter into a "partnership" with this city, you better have a legal contract signed with them as they appear to "change the rules of engagement" quite often...You got that right! Another example of inviting the average citizen to participate and then sticking it to them...I'm living proof of how the City of Middletown treats a volunteer. If I had known then what I do today you can bet I would never have walked into the Middletown Cemetery and started to restore it. |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Jun 05 2009 at 8:44pm
| Until the people stand up and say enough is enough this is what you will get. |
Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 05 2009 at 9:02pm
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Git 'Er Done!
Thanks Smokey
Please share my post with others and help save the Middletown Cemetery and Vault.
If you know of anyone that has family buriedin this cemetery please have them contact me at the number below... The City can't win this WAR!
Thanks
Vivian Moon 727-1942 |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 06 2009 at 8:28am
| Vivian- I won't bother you at home with a phone call. You asked if anyone has family buried here. The answer for me is yes. My Grandfather's family is buried in the Pioneer Cemetery. The name is Stillwaugh. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jun 06 2009 at 10:28am
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VietVet |
Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 06 2009 at 12:12pm
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Dear Miss Moon -
I expect to telephone you to get your postal address.
 Count on Smokey to send you $100 for your legal reply to the city. Dear MiddletownUSA Readers -
I hope that many of you will support Miss Moon.
She is doing good things for Middletown. It is sad to read these unbelievable things about our leaders, I mean dictators.
 Smokey
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Jun 08 2009 at 10:25am
| Last time I checked this is a form of embezzlement. If they can do the crime they should do the time. I am really surprised they want to use this for the mulch - I would assume they would want to spend this money for the demolition of the building. That is what they want to spend all the HUD money for. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jun 08 2009 at 2:50pm
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I received an email from Ms Gilleland last Friday stating that I was NOT to perform any further work in the cemetery without written permission of the City. I emailed Ron Phelps and Doris Baden and told them that I and Cohen Bros had planted new shrubs and grasses last Saturday at the west front side of the cemetery that needed to be watered or they would die. So today I get another email: Ms. Moon, Please do not direct the city staff. We do not have the staff to maintain new, let alone existing planting beds. We are attempting to provide a coordinated approach to maintenance of city facilities. Judith A. Gilleland So not only did they steal money from my account now they are going to let the plants that I have planted for the past 5 years die from lack of water. Yes Sir….this is City PRIDE IN ACTION |
Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Jun 08 2009 at 3:38pm
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Sounds like an admission of guilt that they can not maintain their properties. So therefore why are they sending out citations to individuals about their properties when so many are having hard times financially.
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jun 08 2009 at 4:34pm
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Bobbie
I think we need to set up a camera patrol to photograph all the well kept City property around Middletown and post them on a web site with dates and locations. I have some great photos to share
 . Maybe the City Council would let us do a show and tell during the next Council Meeting  I'm still waiting to see how they are going to solve all the problems of the citizens with rusty gutters....then they are going into the business community and downtown to make it all pretty... |
Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 08 2009 at 5:02pm
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Miss Vivian -
A friend of mine can get you addresses for foreclosed and seriously delinquent HUD-rehabbed houses involving the City. This can show taxpayers how these funds were either wasted or doled out preferentially.
Watch out for the Queen of Middletown. When you don't swear a 100% allegiance to her and her ideas, you are headed for the recycling bin. My friend also learned this lesson like you have now.
God Bless You! God forgive the elitists who (TEMPORARILY) control our government.
Smokey
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Jun 09 2009 at 10:13am
| I don't mind taking pictures, I always have a camera in my car. I think they will pay attention to their properties when someone falls on the paver block around the city building and sues them. That is in need of major repair or someone will hurt themselves. |
Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 16 2009 at 1:25pm
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THIS COMMUNICATION WAS ALSO SENT TO CITY COUNCILMEN MARCONI, ARMBRUSTER, BECKER & SCHIAVONE
Dr. Bronston, Wanda Glover & Dr. Foster -
The first African-American settlers in Middletown are also buried in the Historic Pioneer Cemetery.
Reva Owens, Walter Leap, Don Gardner, Geri Lynn Maples, Paul Renwick, Paul Nagy & Robyn M. French -
Also buried in the Historic Pioneer Cemetery are nearly 250 Revolutionary War, Civil War, Spanish-American War, World War One, World War Two and Korean war veterans.
NRS
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Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 17 2009 at 6:43am
It seems as though all of Miss Scott Jones comments made about Miss Vivian Moon at last night's City Council meeting were not included in this morning's Middletown Journal story. Those of us who know Miss Vivian are disturbed that she would be characterized unfavorably by a City Council member.
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Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 17 2009 at 6:54am
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A very big "thank you" goes out to Tom Rapp for speaking out on behalf of the Historic Pioneer Cemetery and its' most ardent supporter Miss Vivian Moon at last night's City Council meeting!
Despite your serious medical challenges, you routinely attend City Council meetings and always speak the truth on behalf of the citizens of Middletown!
God bless you Tom!
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Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 8:52am
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STATUS OF HOUSING CODE VIOLATION COMPLAINT FROM HISTORIC PIONEER CEMETERY VOLUNTEER STILL IGNORED BY COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION DEPARTMENT On Monday, June 1st, Miss Vivian Moon called a senior staff member of the Community Revitalization Department to report tall weeds and grass at a vacant house next to her residence. Now, some 17 days later the City of Middletown continues to ignore this reported problem. Is this an oversight or retaliation against her??
 Note: all of last year Miss Moon was forced to maintain the yard at the property adjacent to her because she could get no satisfaction from the City of Middletown!!
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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 10:32am
| Based on the information that Vivian was advised to stop working at the cemetery by Gilleland, unless she had permission, I would suspect, based on the lack of appreciation from the city, that she would potentially be cited for attempting to mow the grass next door, without permission,of course! |
Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 11:24am
| I would be very thankful if someone would come take care of my yard. I would keep track of any work that is done there as of now. Since the city is on notice that Vivian filed a report, I am sure the grass and weeds will be taken care of for awhile now. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 11:34am
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Bobbie
They don't have time to hide or repair 60 years of neglect before the the State of Ohio makes their visit...plus I have hundreds of photos showing before and after conditions at the cemetery.
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 12:14pm
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Way to go Vivian. They may say you went "out of order" - however I think you were very fair by letting them know in advance that you would file against them if they did not do anything. You did more then you had to do as far as I am concerned. You should not have to tell the city to take care of their responsibilities. It almost seems to me some individuals think they are above what the law states they should do, as well as what they should do just out of respect. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 1:54pm
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Bobbie
I warned then Mayor Noah Powers in 2005 that the City of Middletown was not in compliance with ORC 4767 regarding the care of the cemetery and that I would file against them if conditions didn't improve. The battle between I and the City has been going on for 4 years however I didn't make it public until this year. I think I have given them more than enough time to step up to the plate and do the right thing..
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Posted By: Middletown News
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 2:56pm
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Agreed Vivian, you gave the city plenty of time. ------------- Please like our http://www.facebook.com/middletownusa" rel="nofollow - Middletown USA Facebook Page |
Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 3:00pm
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Dear Miss Vivian -
It's painfully obvious to a growing number of Middletonians that THE ALMIGHTY QUEEN OF MIDDLETOWN is always displeased when any one of her "servants" fails to toe the line! Be careful of the wrath of the QUEEN!
Like former President Harry Truman reportedly said, "Keep giving 'em Hell Miss Vivian!
Smokey
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Posted By: Smokey Burgess
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 7:09pm
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I noticed today that I've joined the ranks of those who've had published reader comments removed after the fact by the MJ.
I posted the first response to a female city council member's inaccurate and derogatory comments about Miss Vivian Moon and the Historic Pioneer Cemetery at the most recent City Council meeting. My very early Wednesday morning posting noted that this female elected official's comments were omitted in the MJ news article.
Say it 'aint so MJ?
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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 9:54pm
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They play games there,Smokey.
Save yer typing on that spot.
This we have here is it for now.
Thanx to the operators, and support the sponsors and advertisers.
The town saved may be yer own!
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