SunCoke - EPA Meeting
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Topic: SunCoke - EPA Meeting
Posted By: Middletown News
Subject: SunCoke - EPA Meeting
Date Posted: Jun 18 2009 at 1:34pm
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Hamilton County Department of Environmental Services and Ohio EPA will hold a meeting at 6:30 p.m. on June 25, 2009.
The meeting will be held in the City Council Chambers on the lower level of the Middletown City Building, One Donham Plaza, Middletown. Read: http://www.middletownusa.com/view_news.asp?a=4426 - SunCoke: We have enough Emission Reduction Credits ------------- Please like our http://www.facebook.com/middletownusa" rel="nofollow - Middletown USA Facebook Page |
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Posted By: Middletown News
Date Posted: Jun 22 2009 at 4:21pm
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This meeting is coming up Thursday. Anyone planning on attending? ------------- Please like our http://www.facebook.com/middletownusa" rel="nofollow - Middletown USA Facebook Page |
Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Jun 22 2009 at 6:51pm
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Does anyone know with Sun Cokes' ERC if the smell will still be present or have they found a way to eliminate the smell ? ------------- No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !! |
Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Jun 22 2009 at 6:52pm
And yes I plan to be there. ------------- No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !! |
Posted By: Gary Barge
Date Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 1:05am
 ALL OF MIDDLETOWN GO TO THIS
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Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 8:40am
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Gary and Hermes:
If everything works properly (and I realize that is a big "IF") it will not have the smell of the Middletown Works coke plant.
The vast majority of what you currently smell is volatile gasses from which they try to recover by-products. (I have WAY over-simplified here!)
This process will not even attempt any recovery of by-products. The coal/coke will be heated to a much higher temperature, past that at which all such substances will have been burned up. This higher heat (sometimes termed "waste heat") is what allows the "co-generation" of electricity by steam generation.
Ask Mr. Bob Snook, Lemon Township trustee, in case I am not completely technically correct. Even though he is against the project, I believe that he is a stand-up guy. He is certainly more technically savvy about this process than I am (and probably more than nearly any other local resident.) I know that he will be pleased to correct any errors in my explanation or explain more fully if you desire.
------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 9:04am
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Thanks Mike for that summary. The smell is my biggest concern,but if they have developed ways to eliminate it or even reduce it thats great. I have been in areas where coke plants have been located and the smell is horrific. ------------- No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !! |
Posted By: lrisner
Date Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 12:57pm
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The key Point in this whole thing is "Emission
Reduction Credits". That really is the bone of contention to my
understanding. AK Steel permanently shut down it's Middletown Works
Sinter Plant
in June 2003. The Sinter Plant was a major source of Pollution
and the root cause of many complaints over the years. AK "collected"
Emission Reduction Credits for shutting it down. As a quasi "partner"
with AK in the Coke Plant Project the Law supposedly allows the
transfer of these Credits to Sun Coke who want to use them for the
Coke Plant. It is my understanding that Sun Coke waited too long to
start construction and the Credits are thus expired (according to an
anti-Sun Coke source). |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Jun 23 2009 at 10:17pm
Hermes: The great majority of the coke plants in the USA are of the “by-products recovery” type. I would think that is the type you have been near. SunCoke plans to build a “non-recovery” type plant. This is a huge difference. (If you would tell me where the facilities you were near were located, I can probably tell you which type they were, as I have been to a majority of American coke plants, and a few in foreign countries.) The coal (the “raw material” used) will still smell like coal, and the coke (the “finished product”) will still smell like coke. However, few people find these odors objectionable. (In the past, these items were used as heating fuels in homes and were stockpiled near home furnaces and fireplaces.) As long as everything is working properly (and that is the key phrase), I doubt that the odor will be a problem. ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Hermes wrote:Posted By: lrisner
Date Posted: Jun 24 2009 at 8:26am
LOL....I actually kinda liked the smell of Fresh Coke! |
Posted By: Middletown News
Date Posted: Jun 24 2009 at 4:19pm
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I don't think there is much interest in attending from the Monroe community according to John Beagle, the city isn't sending a representative, just a letter.
http://www.mainstreetmonroe.com/Voice/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15232%20 - The Voice: SunCoke - EPA Meeting Thursday 6/25 ------------- Please like our http://www.facebook.com/middletownusa" rel="nofollow - Middletown USA Facebook Page |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Jun 24 2009 at 9:21pm
------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |