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CITY MANAGER PROPOSES SECTION 8 CONSULTANT

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Topic: CITY MANAGER PROPOSES SECTION 8 CONSULTANT
Posted By: Nelson R. Self
Subject: CITY MANAGER PROPOSES SECTION 8 CONSULTANT
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 12:18am

At this coming Tuesday's meeting of the Middletown Public Housing Agency, City Council members will consider an emergency ordinance for an annual $140,000 contract with the Inspection Group of Westerville for Section 8 Housing Quality Standards inspection services.  Interesting??




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Posted By: Nelson R. Self
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 12:44am
I wonder why the City Manager didn't consider utilizing some of the Community Revitalization Department staff that will lose their jobs at the end of the year? ConfusedConfused
 
Yet another out-of-town HUD Consultant that will take $140,000 per year out of Middletown?  That's economic development for you? ConfusedConfused


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 4:14am
Weren't "inspections" included in the CONSOC contract???

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 6:11am
Don't understand. The city is willing to cut housing inspectors from the city payroll, but they are perfectly willing to hire an outside consultant to inspect the Section 8 housing. ???? Where is the savings to the city? This negates the cuts to the budget that Gilleland claims the city is in the process of making doesn't it? Please explain this to the citizens, Ms. Gilleland. So, if the city must incur the cost of these inspections, as Mike says, what exactly is CONSOC doing for their money?


Posted By: Nelson R. Self
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 6:12am
Mike -
 
I never saw the latest HUD Housing Choice Voucher (Section 8) contract between the City and C.O.N.S.O.C.  Judy, Marty and their consultant Frank Chapman handled all Section 8 matters from early March 2008 forward.
 
To obtain a copy, I'd suggest contacting one of the following persons who were presumably involved: Miss Gilleland, Mr. Kohler, Mr. Chapman, Law Department staff, senior Community Revitalization Department staff, and, of course, any of the seven City Council members.
 
Over the past number of months we've heard so many positive comments from two incumbent City Council candidates about the remarkable turnaround of the Section 8 program.  Maybe these two can tell us who has been performing HUD Housing Quality Standards (HQS) inspections?
 
Interesting?


Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 6:42am

/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/middletownnews/entries/2009/03/09/section_8_negotiations_proceed.html - Section 8 negotiations proceeding

By 	/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/middletownnews/entries/2009/03/09/section_8_negotiations_proceed.html#postcomment - Ed Richter | Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:15 PM

Middletown city officials are continuing its contract negotiations with CONSOC Housing Consultants of Columbus who was selected to continue as the Section 8 housing choice vouchers administrator.

In her weekly update to City Council, City Manager Judy Gilleland said the city has ” been making very good progress with CONSOC on the new contract. We have agreement on most of the procedural items; we are still negotiating the CONSOC fee.”

Gilleland said her “intention was to have a fixed fee for the contract thus not providing an incentive for CONSOC to increase the number of vouchers. After conversations with CONSOC, we are willing to consider a fee based upon the number of vouchers.

While the city is willing to consider a fee based on the number of vouchers, Gilleland said the city is also including language in the proposed contract to reduce the number of vouchers by 10 percent a year until there is a total of 800 vouchers from the current 1,662 vouchers.

Gilleland said, “the reduction would only be through attrition - as voucher holders left the program, their voucher would be given back to HUD (the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development).”

She said HUD could reassign those vouchers to Butler or Warren County, but also said the city is more concerned about ensuring our program is under control. While this language of intent to reduce is included in the contract, Council will need to also discuss as the Housing Authority while reviewing the Administrative Plan, she said.

So what do you think? Do you think this is the best way to reduce the number of Section 8 housing choice vouchers? If not, how would you resolve this issue?



Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 6:46am

Does Section 8 help or hurt city?

In the past 10 years, residents using the program have more than doubled.

By Ed Richter, Staff Writer
1:02 AM Sunday, July 19, 2009

MIDDLETOWN — While the term “Section 8” may evoke different ideas in the minds of Middletonians, it is a public program meant to provide rent subsidies for low- to moderate-income families to live in safe, decent and clean housing.

Its roots date back to the federal laws enacted during the Great Depression, and now Section 8 also includes programs that provide housing assistance to the elderly and disabled in public and private complexes and rental houses.

Jim Cunningham of the Cincinnati office of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, said the “tenant-based program allows people to rent on the open market. The tenant pays 30 to 40 percent of the rent.”

Cunningham said tenants pay their portion to the landlord while the housing authority pays the difference in the rent for units that must meet HUD housing quality standards.

According to HUD regulations, there is no limit on how long a person may keep a voucher, so long as the income limits — no more than 50 percent of the median income for the county or city — are not exceeded.

Also, the vouchers are portable and can be used anywhere in the United States.

HUD spends more than $16.8 billion annually on the housing choice program that nationally assists more than 1.4 million households.

Growth of Section 8

The 1,662 housing choice vouchers assigned to the Middletown Public Housing Authority represent about 7 percent of the city’s households.

As of Wednesday, July 15, there were 1,576 active vouchers in use, according to the city’s Community Revitalization Department.

While it has been proposed to reduce the number of vouchers to about 800 through attrition, Middletown City Council has not moved forward with the proposal.

“I believe that the Section 8 program is a good program that benefits people in need,” said City Manager Judy Gilleland. “We need to ensure that Middletown residents have access to affordable housing, and Section 8 vouchers help to that end.”

Middletown, along with Parma, are the only two municipally run public housing agencies in Ohio. Throughout the rest of the state, public housing is overseen by county or multicounty housing authorities.

Lucrative leases

In its 2009 budget, the city projected to receive more than $11.75 million in federal funding for the Section 8 voucher program.

The number of vouchers in Middletown has more than doubled from 767 in 2000 to 1,662 in 2009. In federal funding, that has grown from $2.47 million in 2000 that is pumped into the city’s economy.

The program is big business for local landlords, with some owning as many as 20 to more than 40 rental units.

Housing ‘imbalance’

In 2008, Gilleland proposed transferring the 30-year-old program to the Butler Metropolitan Housing Authority because the city was not equipped to administer the complex program.

She also cited the imbalance of Section 8 housing vouchers in Middletown compared to Butler County, which has just under 1,000.

Middletown holds more than 50 percent of the housing choice vouchers in Butler County, yet the city only represents about 15 percent of the county’s population. The city’s poverty rate also nearly doubled the past eight years from 12 to 22 percent.

She said the city in the past acquired vouchers “without a conscious conversation with Council.”

City staff in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003 wrote letters of support in applications seeking an additional 790 vouchers. The applications were prepared by CONSOC Housing Consultants of Columbus, which has managed the program for the past 19 years. Council gave its approval as part of its annual consolidated plan sent to HUD.

Although City Council capped the number of vouchers at 1,554, HUD also converted 108 site-based units to the housing choice program, which increased the total to its current level at 1,662 vouchers.

Addressing issues

“The city of Middletown has experienced issues with Section 8 housing,” Gilleland said. “The city wasn’t doing its due diligence with housing inspections and criminal activity among the residents of Section 8 residents.”

In May, City Council ratified a new three-year contract with CONSOC, and both are now working on updating the administrative plan and policies to ensure there is quality housing and to curtail criminal activity, Gilleland said. Some tenants involved in criminal activity already have lost vouchers.

“We’ve tightened up the provisions ... and we’re confident that there will be major improvements in the Section 8 program in the very near future,” she said. “In fact, we’ve seen some positive changes already.”



Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 7:30am
I still feel certain that, during the "interviews" with the other two bidders, there was discussion about how inspections would be performed and whether they would be by the contractor's in-house people or sub-contracted out!
 
Of course, CONSOC's "interview" never really got started before Mr. Joseph began making thinly-veiled insinuations about who had REALLY been calling the shots the last 19 years that CONSOC was seemingly being blamed for.  Then all of a sudden, the very same council members who had been clamoring for a NEW administrator suddenly decided that, even though their bid was ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS HIGHER, there was "NO COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE!!!"
 
Perhaps the "negotiations" were to REDUCE the scope of work (remove the inspections) from CONSOC's contract, withOUT reducing the price in exchange for silence??? 
 
I don't know, but to quote Archie Bunker (trying to quote Balzac or Kipling or one a dem Greeks): "Somthin' smells fishy in the city of Denmark!"


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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 8:19am
MJ article 04/21/09:
 
"Housing inspections change

Under the new contract, the city and CONSOC modified oversight of the inspection process for Section 8. Now instead of CONSOC handling inspections, those duties could be farmed out to a third party, Mills said.

“Or we may do it with city staff in-house,” she said. “We are looking into that, and the contract gives us that flexibility.”

Mills said the city wanted to get a better handle on what was going on with inspections of Section 8 properties and have more control of the process.

“Sometimes we didn’t know what was going on with a particular property,” Mills said. “Has there been a complaint? Where is it in the process? Has it been followed up on? How is it being handled?”

Mills said the new process should improve that information flow and create more consistency with housing code enforcement."



Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 10:25am
"The cost of this contract is expected to be approximately $140.000 per year based on inspections of the 1662 total available vouchers. The contract is for a one year period, with two automatic additional annual renewals unless the City cancels in writing. If you remember from our Consoc negotiations, the expense for this contract is built into the Consoc contract. Consoc’s fee for overseeing the Section 8 program was reduced to 78% and the City’s portion of funds was increased to 22% of total monthly HUD Section 8 funds to pay for these services and for administration. The expenses for this contract are included in the 2010 budget."


Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Oct 19 2009 at 12:07pm
City management should read some of the information on this sight - then they would not have to pay for outside consultants.  That would be one easy way to save money - READ AND LISTEN TO WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING.



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