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Topic: City Buying Property

Posted By: randy
Subject: City Buying Property
Date Posted: Dec 15 2009 at 11:36am

Taking from Middletown City Council agenda

view the complete agenda here http://www.middletownusa.com/view_news.asp?a=4796 - Middletown City Council Agenda For Tuesday December 15, 2009

1. Resolution No. R2009-44, a resolution authorizing a contract with Darlene Dunlap for the purchase of certain real property located at 4406 Roosevelt Boulevard. (2nd Reading)

2. Resolution No. R2009-45, a resolution authorizing a contract with Larry Donald Meadows and Eva Meadows for the purchase of certain real property located at 4408 Roosevelt Boulevard. (2nd Reading)

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Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Dec 15 2009 at 11:37am

Can someone explain why we are buying these properties ?

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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 15 2009 at 12:07pm

randy- I believe these properties were discussed in a past council meeting. If I remember correctly, these two properties were a collection point for water runoff with the water passing between the houses to a collection basin. With this city caused problem, the property owners were unable to sell their houses. Rather than the city fix the runoff problem by regrading the properties, it was decided that buying the properties and tearing the houses down will be cheaper to do.

Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Dec 15 2009 at 12:26pm

I do remember the talk at the meeting just couldn't recall why, so thanks.

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Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Dec 15 2009 at 1:40pm

So where is the city suddenly getting all this money for police cars & property ?

Did they plant one of those money trees in city hall ?

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Posted By: rngrmed
Date Posted: Dec 15 2009 at 9:37pm

I wish the City would buy my house....

Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Dec 16 2009 at 1:20am

rngrmed wrote:

I wish the City would buy my house....

Ranger: Be careful what you wish for!!!

As I recall the council discussion in the past, Mr. Schiavonne suggested that the city "do nothing" as the situation would then deteriorate until the property would be unusable and unsellable. The city could then buy the property on the cheap, fix the propblem, and re-sell as prime commercial property at a handsome profit.

Just one more example why the government should NOT be in the real estate business!!! They can set the rules, change the rules, rig the game, ruin the other players, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012

Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Dec 16 2009 at 1:57am

VietVet wrote:

randy- I believe these properties were discussed in a past council meeting. If I remember correctly, these two properties were a collection point for water runoff with the water passing between the houses to a collection basin. With this city caused problem, the property owners were unable to sell their houses. Rather than the city fix the runoff problem by regrading the properties, it was decided that buying the properties and tearing the houses down will be cheaper to do.

Vet:

Please allow me to be a little more "TC" (technically correct): The real problem was all of the paving on the OTHER side of Roosevelt Blvd. The area bounded by Grand, Elliot, Roosevelt, and Breiel back to Grand became nearly completely impermeable (built upon or paved over) and the total rainwater runoff was channelled under a new box bridge on Roosevelt with a tail structure channelling it AT AN ANGLE into a swale between these two properties. The design of this bridge and ancillary structurs guaranteed that, during heavy rains, large quantities of storm run-off would come barrelling out from under the bridge at high velocities against the east bank of the swale, and then "slosh" back and forth, with excess over flowing until the volume and velocity allowed it to be contained within the swale.

The proper "fix" would have been to put a "bend" in the run-off at some point, and conain the high volume, high velocity run-off within a structure until it was directed in a manner that no damage would occur from the discharge. In layman's terms, this means: keep the water inside a pipe until it is aimed straight down the the swale (ditch) between the two properties.

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012

Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 16 2009 at 6:26am

Excellent TC explanation Mike! I found your description of the situation just swale!

Don't we have some of them thare college edgeeacated fellers in the city enginerin' department that could have come up with a solushun like that??

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