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Of Interest from the Housing Committee 2-5-10

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Topic: Of Interest from the Housing Committee 2-5-10
Posted By: Pacman
Subject: Of Interest from the Housing Committee 2-5-10
Date Posted: Feb 13 2010 at 8:47am

Housing Incentives for Public Employees

Mr. Adkins distributed information gathered about incentive programs offered in other municipalities.  He said sixteen of Middletown’s 84 firefighters are residents and thirty of 80 police officers live within the City. Many communities used to have requirements for residency and the Supreme Court has overruled that. He asked committee members to look at the information and they can have further discussion. There was discussion about taking this to the bargaining units during contract negotiations.  Staff is exploring ideas that would bring youth and people back to the City. Discussion included a lottery of NSP homes that could be spread broader based and create some excitement in the program.  Staff will continue to look at programs

NSP Update

As reported earlier, Mr. Adkins explained there will be a shift from demo to acquisition and rehabilitation. The theory is to stabilize neighborhoods. He is working with Fannie Mae, HUD and the larges REO realtor to find homes for purchase and rehab. He explained the process that starts with a Cost Estimate Report, includes a Rehab Feasibility Analysis, and Appraisal. Homes acquired and rehabbed could be incentive homes. If the program does not get all its money back from the rehab, that’s OK. HUD recommends you lose $75,000 per home. When you take an empty house and possibly turn it into the last vacant house on the street; putting a taxpaying family in the house, HUD feels these are investments in the neighborhood and community. They will tell you if you are not losing money, you are not doing a good job. There was discussion about housing stock and looking at three or four bedroom $100,000 homes for this project. HUD will carry a second mortgage to put better housing stock in the neighborhood. Middletown has done some of these, but not without some criticism. Maple Park is a good example with better quality homes and a nicer neighborhood within a neighborhood. The policies need to be well wrapped and understood.




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Posted By: wasteful
Date Posted: Feb 13 2010 at 2:36pm
Mr. Adkins has anyone out of curiosity asked the employees who don't live in Middletown..........WHY THEY DON'T LIVE IN MIDDLETOWN?  I would think the fact that so many don't would cause the city to wonder why and ask the employees why they live elsewhere.
 
You yourself don't live in Middletown.  Would you consider moving to Middletown right now?  If we give you a house in say the Second ward....probably not, how about over on Riverview or DaVinci.  Just curious.  Another one of those City employee questions us taxpaying citizens would like to know the answer to, but I doubt we ever will.
 


Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Feb 13 2010 at 6:23pm
 " He said sixteen of Middletown’s 84 firefighters are residents and thirty of 80 police officers live within the City"
 
So that is 68 out of town firemen and 50 out of town police officers of which I for one am against this policy. Firemen & police should have a vested interest in the community where they work and not just a job. This policy is absolutely & totally ridiculous !! Angry


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Posted By: Nelson R. Self
Date Posted: Feb 15 2010 at 4:19pm
Good Afternoon Pacman -
 
According to the 2/5/2010 minutes of the City Council's Housing Subcommittee meeting you
posted, I find comments allegedly made by Doug to be quite alarming.
 
Doug's alleged comments that HUD may possibly encourage CDBG/HOME/NSP-1 grant recipients (like the City of Middletown) not to worry about wasteful spending practices are disturbing?  If so, should we comply by grossly over-investing in vacant, foreclosed homes via the latest purchase/rehab/resale panacea birthed by Washington, D.C. intelligencia?  Are these not our hard-earned tax dollars?
 
Does anyone remember the $200,000+ that the City "blew" on the infamous FHA Dollar Homes Fiasco?  I vividly recall how that debacle and others were indirectly castigated at a City Council meeting in January 2009 by Bill Becker, David Schiavone, Tony Marconi?  Mr. Armbruster joined with them when it was made clear that the $2.144 Million NSP-1 grant should focus primarily on property demolition.  Miss Judy voiced no opposition then.
 
The message from the all-knowing bureaucrats seems to be, "Lose up to $75,000 on each individual vacant, foreclosed home.  Who cares but the average Middletown taxpayer?"
 
Like Viet Vet says frequently, "WHAT A CITY??" 


Posted By: Nelson R. Self
Date Posted: Feb 15 2010 at 11:45pm
It seems that wasteful HUD programs, outlandish statements from certain senior City staff, etc., etc. have little to no effect on average Middletonians.
 
If this really be the case, then, there's little hope for improvement in Middletown in the future.
 
Paraphrasing a prior Doug Adkins comment to Randy Lewis, "The ball is in your court MiddletownUSA participants."


Posted By: Nelson R. Self
Date Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 6:11am
The Wall Street Journal projects yet another round of residential foreclosures will hit the housing market over the next two years!!
 
I wonder how many more of these estimated 5,000,000 dwellings will be situated in Middletown??
 
Oh well, according to Doug, at least we have millions of HUD funny money to squander in purchasing, rehabilitating and selling a minute handful of these??
 
As for me, I prefer my tax dollars to be used wisely and effectively...........not at the whim of any senior City staff bureaucrats!!
 
And, aren't our Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other Federal safety net programs rapidly going broke??
 
It's a slap in the face to all Americans when any bureaucrat cavalierly goes about wasting Federal dollars!!
 
Most of our cancerous deficit spending comes courtesy of loans from such stalwarts of Democracy like Communist China, Saudi Arabia, etc.!!
 
What a Country and What a City??


Posted By: Nelson Self
Date Posted: Aug 10 2010 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Nelson R. Self Nelson R. Self wrote:

Good Afternoon Pacman -
 
According to the 2/5/2010 minutes of the City Council's Housing Subcommittee meeting you posted, I find comments allegedly made by Doug to be quite alarming.
 
Doug's alleged comments that HUD may possibly encourage CDBG/HOME/NSP-1 grant recipients (like the City of Middletown) not to worry about wasteful spending practices are disturbing?  If so, should we comply by grossly over-investing in vacant, foreclosed homes via the latest purchase/rehab/resale panacea birthed by Washington, D.C. intelligencia?  Are these not our hard-earned tax dollars?
 
Does anyone remember the $200,000+ that the City "blew" on the infamous FHA Dollar Homes Fiasco?  I vividly recall how that debacle and others were indirectly castigated at a City Council meeting in January 2009 by Bill Becker, David Schiavone, Tony Marconi?  Mr. Armbruster joined with them when it was made clear that the $2.144 Million NSP-1 grant should focus primarily on property demolition.  Miss Judy voiced no opposition then.
 
The message from the all-knowing bureaucrats seems to be, "Lose up to $75,000 on each individual vacant, foreclosed home.  Who cares but the average Middletown taxpayer?"
 
Like Viet Vet says frequently, "WHAT A CITY??" 
 
Sad to say, it seems that many of our earlier fears about the City's $2.144 Million in NSP-1 funded projects are now coming true!


Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Aug 11 2010 at 9:27am
Regarding the firefighters/police officers residing in the city.  At one point the city manager did not want any of the assistance being offered to any employee - stating this was a conflict.  Not to mention - I would think that in order to offer HUD money they would have to be a first time homebuyer, or you might run into conflict using federal money towards a special group.  It would not be fair to offer federal money to police officers, but not to say someone working at AK Steel. 



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