Monroe SunCoke Lawsuit
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Topic: Monroe SunCoke Lawsuit
Posted By: Middletown News
Subject: Monroe SunCoke Lawsuit
Date Posted: Jun 22 2011 at 11:52am
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Monroe is relentless in its pursuit of its hatred toward Middletown, especially when it comes to SunCoke and the chamber.
Listen to the lies Monroe is telling: From the Mayor of Monroe "Alan McCoy’s recent letter to the editor (“Monroe Did Not Win Any Ruling,” April 19, 2011) is an example of AK Steel’s continuing effort to discredit Monroe’s efforts to protect the City and its citizens from harmful pollution by Middletown Coke Company. " From a councilman: "We're not talking about a few POUNDS of toxins here...We're talking about literally thousands of TONS - and not in "chunk" form either - this is in minuet, breathable particulate matter." SunCokeWatch member: "The loss of property values over time will be even more if you have dirty illegal coke plant in operation." What is with that town anyway? ------------- Please like our http://www.facebook.com/middletownusa" rel="nofollow - Middletown USA Facebook Page |
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Posted By: middletownscouter
Date Posted: Jun 22 2011 at 1:27pm
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The pattern that I've seen with Monroe over the last several years is that they think they're too good for any other municipality around, and they don't have any interest in being a good neighbor. If it doesn't directly benefit them, they're against it.
If the residents of Monroe are okay with their city wasting over a million dollars screaming at the rain, then they're getting what they deserve. |
Posted By: Voleye
Date Posted: Jun 22 2011 at 7:14pm
| Thats Monore. It should be legal for AK to release from employment anyone from Monore! Not to mention they are the only goverment body holding up the State Route 63 extension. I avoid spending any money in Monroe that I dont have to. |
Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Jun 22 2011 at 9:41pm
| When I went to high school in monroe back in the 70s we refered to the town as the snobs on the hill. |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 23 2011 at 6:44am
When I went to high school at the old Midd. High School down on Girard, Monroe was just a little cow pasture, identified by the blue tower on the top of the hill. Apparently, they are a "want-to-be" Springboro town in attitude now. Seems they are trying to follow the Springboro mentality toward being labeled a snobbish little town. On the other side of the coin, I don't think Middletown endered themselves to Monroe in the way they ignored them when the two towns were one as a school system. Monroe schools were ignored by the parent Middletown school system and that was the beginning of the sour grapes relationship as far as I know. Strange.....for decades, Armco (AK) was the great hope for opportunity, both for Middletown and Monroe residents. Provided a nice living all this time for many families around here. Now, at least in Monroe's viewpoint, it is the Great Satan spewing vile pollution. Wonder how many Monroe families are enjoying the decent life AK provides and are still the major players in the attempt to shut their new coke operations down? Or is it the newby yuppies from Cincy and Dayton who are moving into the area, not understanding the impact the company provides around this "decent job starved" area and not caring either. They are probably the same people who are bitching that there are no decent jobs around here anymore. Monroe's residents have co-existed with Armco/AK for decades, enjoying what the company offered in pay and bennies AND putting up with the negative aspects of pollution. It was much worse in the 50's folks and we still lived with it until scrubbers were installed. Sad that a few would try to inhibit progress and prevent people from earning a decent living at the new coke plant. JMO |
Bocephus wrote:Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Jun 23 2011 at 7:00am
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I see it totally different. Monroe's council actions were an example of how a council supports its constituents and voters and residentsin full force. would Middletown give a damn about anything harmful to anyone of it brought them a buck, I don't think so. Middletown focuses upon one thing- protecting its entitlement. Monroe, on the other hand, shows the effort and dedication to taking on a war if it is deemed hurtful to its community and citizens property value. Think Middletown council and eadership would do anything to help anyone protect its value except a few chosen ones? I don't think so.
No legal firm thinks it can win without reviewing the facts and cases and telling that to their client, ergo Monroe. Monroe is getting legal advice it can win. The wrench that threw this thing amok is one think: the amount of waste to get clearance and all the scrutiny was based upon being below 50 units of air particles emitted. That was the game changer, and unquetionably SunCoke's record in northen Ohio has been exposed as being weak and non compliant by many, many citations.
I'd take Monroe's approach and commitment to its residents a 100 times over Middletown. Monroe's schools dstroy Middletown's performance, and their ED department and growth just blows Middletown out of the water. On balance, I think the sleepy cow town has emerged in far beter shape than the town to its north called Middletown. But who's keeping score right?
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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 23 2011 at 7:10am
| Good points acclaro. |
Posted By: TudorBrown
Date Posted: Jun 23 2011 at 7:21pm
Monroe is a trashy little mixed up town. Let them have fun over in their goofy little aluminum box homes, soon to be covered in coke dust! |
Posted By: Voice of Reason
Date Posted: Jun 23 2011 at 8:28pm
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This dispute was never about pollution--from the get-go it was about Monroe residents' concern that their property values would decline. Frankly I'm amazed that they've kept up the charade for as long as they have, but so be it, it's their money. I would offer this observation--if they're so worried about their health and the health of their kids, I wonder if they've also all stopped drinking, smoking, and eating fast food, all habits which will prove far worse to a person's health than the construction of a second coke plant several miles away. Somehow I doubt it. ------------- "Ask not what your country can do for you..." JFK |
Posted By: LMAO
Date Posted: Jun 23 2011 at 8:48pm
To bad they didnt build it in your backyard!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Voleye
Date Posted: Jun 24 2011 at 6:54am
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"To bad they didnt build it in your backyard!!!!!!!!!!!"
There is a reason I/we didnt purchase a house within a mile of AK Steel. When we were looking for a home one of the first things we looked at was the probability of industry building around the location. Its rather funny because the first property my wife liked was on Hollybrook. I told her then (10 years ago) that there was no way I would live there, Its too close to AK. You purchased property close to AK that was nice when you pirchased it, you should have looked to the future.
acclaro makes good points if it were about putting up a traffic light or changing an intersection to make it more safe. But this is the industry that the entire Middletown/Franklin/Madison/ and yes Monore NEEDS to keep the area running. If AK goes away this will be a ghost town, and property values will drop anyway.
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Posted By: Voice of Reason
Date Posted: Jun 24 2011 at 4:36pm
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LMAO--I think you mean: "Too" bad they didn't build it in (my) back yard. I'll bet you're a recent product of Monroe or Middletown schools, which, ironically, makes you a big part of the reason that property values are so low in Middletown and parts of Monroe--good school systems are a big factor in where people choose to locate, and right now Middletown schools are terrible and Monroe, while better, are hardly anything to brag about.
So maybe the Coke Plant is (figuratively) going up in your back yard, but the substandard students/parents are in my back yard. ------------- "Ask not what your country can do for you..." JFK |
Posted By: LMAO
Date Posted: Jun 24 2011 at 8:59pm
Sorry to burst your bubble but you are wrong. I went to neither schools as you mentioned.Im not the problem people like you are the problem.People like you that are okay building another pollution factory in the area and especially in the back of a school. You must be related to someone of the spineless council. So to end VOR you can kiss where the sun dont shine.Have a good evening.
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Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Jun 25 2011 at 9:48am
| VOR - last time I check the Monroe School System was rated Excellent and the Middletown School District was rated continuous improvement with 3 or 4 Elementary Schools in Academic Watch. |
Posted By: middletownscouter
Date Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 10:14am
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Here's a prime example of the hypocrisy I perceive coming out of Monroe. http://bit.ly/jPAG1d - http://bit.ly/jPAG1d
Monroe refused to consider extending Route 63 to alleviate traffic in Trenton, yet when they have a traffic problem they want other communities to help them out in extending roads. I'm not sure what's more annoying - Monroe's hypocrisy or the fact that with a huge budget shortfall the folks at the City are wanting to spend money on this project instead of focusing on fixing the streets in Middletown which has a greater benefit to our residents. |
Posted By: John Beagle
Date Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 11:40am
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Looks like City Manager Brock claims Monroe did not initiate the Yankee road extension.
Here is a post on this subject. Posted by John Beagle - 06/27/2011 : 11:21:53 AM I asked Bill Brock about this meeting, he said Monroe did not initiate the project and deemed the idea as 'unfeasable.' So there is a dispute between what Middletown and Monroe are saying about working together on this project. Here is City Managers response, "The meeting was prompted by Middletown Economic Development. We met once. The project is not feasible. What the article did not say was that I indicated to Andy that the major impact of the roadway would be to open up and make the MADE industrial park more viable, thus the reason for Middletown ED exploring the project. For some reason he makes it seem like we are pushing it. If there are others speaking to Middletown representing another position, I am unaware of it." Source: http://www.mainstreetmonroe.com/Voice/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23659 - http://www.mainstreetmonroe.com/Voice/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23659
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