YOUR LAST CHANCE
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Topic: YOUR LAST CHANCE
Posted By: Paul Nagy
Subject: YOUR LAST CHANCE
Date Posted: Nov 05 2011 at 8:14am
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SATURDAY - SUNDAY - MONDAY
TUESDAY IS NOVEMBER 8TH
ELECTION DAY
Some of us waited until the last minute for you to step up to the plate and run for office but you didn't so we stepped up. We paid the fees, we thought out the issues, we attended the forums, we put the issues on the table to educate all of the voters, we put out signs and we wrote articles . We listened to your suggestions, criticisms and some few nasty comments with no contribution on thoughful issues.
We received lots of encouragement from many of you. We have done what we can.
Have you done all you can? You didn't step up before but you can now.
THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!!!
You can continue with the present government that has taken the city nowhere or you can change the city's direction. You can do it Tuesday at the ballot box. Will you?
Vote for new candidates that have new vision, goals and ideas to bring our city into the 21st century. Taxpayers can do that easily by not voting for any incumbents nor voting for those who are known candidates of MMF. If you want local government that is open, transparent, accountable, will bring businesses, jobs and people, and where your voice is heard….. VOTE FOR PAUL NAGY FOR MAYOR. The time for all of the baloney is over! It is time for you to act! You need to vote and get your family and friends to vote for new leadership. If Wednesday you left the same people in office its no one's fault but yours. You will deserve what you get.
You will not have anyone to blame or take the credit but yourselves. GO VOTERS!
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Replies:
Posted By: Jack Black
Date Posted: Nov 05 2011 at 9:48am
| Mr. Nagy is Middletown's best hope to help bring honest, transparent and efficient government back to us. I also support Mr. Presta and Mr. Kidd as well. It's way past time to take back City Hall. |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Nov 05 2011 at 10:15am
Thank you for your support!!! If elected, I promise to do my very best to justify your faith in me!!!  ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Jack Black wrote:Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 8:37am
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Block by block, 300 becomes 5800. Bummer more tax pizzas coming for Ward 2 to get the Health levy and Main Street get Ward 2 swap. Rather unethical for public officials to use their name and title to endorse a position or candidate, when salaries are also paid for others they don't support. The blocks own the message; the Journal, and who loves getting those ads more than Cox News. |
Posted By: Paul Nagy
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 10:01am
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"Mr. Nagy, a few did not run not because they would not have been excellent candidates, they did not have the time. You did not have a treasurer, and you could have easily raised at least $3,000-$5,000 to put ads in the paper, have a crisp message. In debate 2, you said you ran for Mayor in 2007 because Mr. Mulligan was shy, but how much he had improved over his term.
This vicious cycle of the dominant quid pro quo, will be broken ONLY when money is unleased, strong candidates run, and the candidates organize to break the backs of the quid pro quo cartel. Another election, same results. So Mr. Nagy, don't blame the voter for lack of organization and fund raising that they did not do their job. Many were prepared in force, to give money, help with the campaign, but when you don't have a treasurer, it shows either you are pounding the streets and wearing out shoe leather, or just in to be contrarian. "
Acclaro,
You are factless and wrong about almost everything.
1. Lots of us don't have time but we ran anyway. You are wrong that time is an excuse for anyone. Most people on council are busy, busy people.
2. I did have a treasurer. You are wrong again! You don't know campaign law. I am the treasurer of my
campaign and the State of Ohio says so. So are other candidates.
3. You feel no responsibility in quoting any one correctly. What I said was that I ran agains t Mr. Mulligan in 2007 because I thought he was shy and withdrawn and I didn't think he could sell the city as it needed to be sold but since then he has gotten over a lot of that. You are wrong again. This statement doesn't give any credence to your ranting. Try some other childish ploy.
4. You need to apologize for saying that I said I blamed the voters for lack of organization and fundraising. Thats a pure outright lie, Acclaro. You are wrong again and you should apologize to me and the voters.
5. You don't know who is helping with my campaign and you are wrong again! I also asked no one for money. I indirectly received $60.00 for my campaign and the rest I funded myself.
6. I have better things to do then to run just because I'm a contrarian. You are wrong again! Anyone who knows me knows better. I waited until I was sure no one else was running and i was convicted that someone needed to get the issues on the table sor the public to see both sides.. So, I ran out of that conviction. I've been involved with city concerns and politics a lot longer than you have. You never showed up all of these years until now. You obviouly don't take the time to get to know the candidates and your presumptions are only exceeded by pompous rantings. Why don't you run for something? Oh, you said you're moving out of the city. Thats soooo helpful.
Paul Nagy
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Posted By: jag123
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 10:44am
There are several people listed in Ann's and Larry's adds who do not live in Middletown.
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Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 11:39am
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My friends, friendly fire incoming....take cover.
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Posted By: Stanky
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 2:24pm
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"I never would want the job, embarrassing to be frank. Maybe a launch pad to others, but glory ego doesn't come from "winning" in Middletown."
And the intelligent message is once again soured by superiority and condescension. And the 1% have spoken. Eat up your cake folks. |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 3:19pm
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"Politics is more dangerous than war, for in war you are only killed once." -
-W.Churchill
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Posted By: ground swat
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 6:49pm
| The line for the LSD starts where? |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 7:02pm
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If I may, I suggest that we spend these last few days continuing
as the loyal opposition—rallying the voters to our common cause. Whether one agrees with the wording of his
post or not, I believe that is what Mr. Nagy was trying to do with the first
post in this thread. Let us not forget that, regardless of the types of campaigns
we have chosen to run (or why), the goal of the challengers and most of the
poster on this forum is the same: A better city for ALL
Middletonians sooner than could ever be possible by following the proven failed
policies of the entrenched administration and their obvious cronies. There will be plenty of time for Monday morning quarterbacking beginning on Wednesday. It serves no
purpose today. What Middletown needs on City Council are some new, good
people!!! Let us hope that the voters have the collective wisdom to
discern between “good people” and “shrewd, well-financed campaigners”. ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: ground swat
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 7:31pm
| Thank you Mr. P. This thread isn't helping when making the case for change. |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 8:36pm
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Hot pizza taxes coming 1) Senior Citizens 2012 2) City 1.75% Renewal 3) New Schools- 2013 4) 2.25%
city pizza tax in 2014.
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Posted By: Jack Black
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 10:54pm
| I've witnessed first-hand the arrogant, elitist behavior of Mrs. Gilleland and some City Council cohorts that are controlled by the MMF. It matters much to the future of Middletown to elect Mr. Nagy, Mr. Presta and Mr. Kidd. Now is a very inopportune time for any MUSA regular to harm the quest for a return to open, honest and efficient municipal government. We have suffered too long at the hands of the inner-circle! |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 11:25pm
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I agree that I, and perhaps some of the other “outsiders”,
may not have run effective campaigns.
The only point that I am trying to make is that right now, and for the
next two days, is not the time to discuss that:
It is too late to change it; there can be not “do-overs”; this is not
golf, so we can’t take a mulligan (and we certainly don’t need another
Mulligan I am simply saying that that win, lose, or draw, there will be plenty of time to critique our
campaigns after Tuesday’s results are in.
There is nothing to be gained by doing it now. Right now, we need every vote that we can possibly get. Pointing out our campaigning flaws won’t
accomplish that. ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Nov 06 2011 at 11:46pm
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Posted by Acclaro Posted by TudorBrown   By the way, Acclaro, the picture of me that Tudor Brown posted on the "We Like Mike" thread was much more flattering than this picture of me that you posted above!!! 
(In case there is any doubt, I am just kidding...trying to lighten the mood down the homestretch!!!) ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Nov 07 2011 at 7:46am
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Very proud to support Mr.Nagy and Mr.Presta, along with Mr.Moore and Mrs.Scott Jones. Can't imagine why anyone would vote otherwise, unless they are satisfied with the status quo.
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Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 8:19am
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ObamaCare coming, costing $ trillions. No assurances or guarantees city won't spend that, and they get fed funds paying her salary. Starve the Beast? Who fed the health levy? Status quo---pizza tax with no gained county efficiencies. |
Posted By: middletownscouter
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 9:04am
| Acclaro, would you mind explaining what you mean by the term "tax pizza?" |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 9:14am
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Sure scouter. City and Company uses the cost of a pizza incessantly to justify the economics of the affect of a tax levy, in simple terms, a pizza. Ergo, a tax pizza on $100,000. is a "pizza."- $15.00 in Health as an example. So, to the voter, its only the cost of a simple pizza, a Tuesday special at Cousin Vinny's, vs reality it is about 6 "pizzas" multiplied over many issues, you get many pizzas. |
Posted By: middletownscouter
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 9:25am
| That makes more sense to me now, thanks. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 1:12pm
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Voter turn out at 2nd Ward not as strong as expected as per pole workers.
Only Joe Mulligan friend working the parking lot.
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Posted By: TudorBrown
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 3:56pm
HAHAHA!!!  |
Posted By: Jack Black
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 3:56pm
| What say the pole dancers? |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Nov 08 2011 at 9:06pm
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Today is a big day fr all Middletonians and MUSA.
With the demise of organized debate/discussion on the tvm and mj, MUSA is the key source of info/opinion by most who try to follow community govt.activities. Regardless of who wins 2nite, many issues and ?s have been brought to the surface. Local govt.'s back is t the wall-- not much wiggle room, time fr real answers/action, and precious little $$ left to use. Coupled with a low revenue future. Obvious to everyone that the next Council/Admin had better hit the ground running in a new direction. |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Nov 09 2011 at 12:42am
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"Bartender, I'm whatever my friend sj is drinking, he appears to be terribly drunk." musa cathartic, Yes....influential...No. |