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Topic: Orman Bldg Demo
Posted By: 409
Subject: Orman Bldg Demo
Date Posted: Jan 28 2013 at 6:29pm
It looks like demo is about to resume.
Fencing is going up.



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Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Feb 11 2013 at 1:39pm
Noticed today the impound lot has been vacated.
CIS is in the process of abating asbestos.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Feb 27 2013 at 3:05pm
The old impound lot fence is down & they are starting to move in equipment.
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 11 2013 at 7:17pm


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Mar 11 2013 at 8:12pm
409, Thanks for the pictures!!!


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 12 2013 at 4:31pm
 
 
 


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 6:08am
Glad to see this hazardous, eyesore being removed. Now, we can expect to see more green space in the downtown area for the creation of a shuttle service to CS OR a Park and Ride for Smith Park as people park their cars in the lot and take the bus less than a quarter mile up the road to Smith. This extra parking lot will help when the hot air balloon fests are going on and will eleviate parking issues when the "millions" (Morts last count) of people invade Smith. Good to see the downtown area becoming wide-open with the city's "Open Range" gameplan. In time, one will be able to drive down there and gaze upon acres of grazing land and literally be able to look across town, view unobstructed.

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: ktf1179
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 9:26am
I am glad to see that get tore down as well, let's keep the tearing down of eyesores up. How about tearing down the dated 1970's City Building next Wink.


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 10:04am
Oh, KTF, don't give our city manager any ideas. She would jump on that in a heart beat. Ofcourse she gets the corner office.


Posted By: enough is enough
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 12:31pm
NO NO  We cannot tear down the city building now that we have the school district renting the fourth floor for $5000 a month. That should get us out of the red. Maybe that could be put toward the fancy lights on S. Main. Better yet maybe any left over office space could be converted into Section 8 apartments. 

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Enough is Enough


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 2:04pm
Well, we might as well get the money any way we can. I'm not sure tha "HUD money" thing is going to work out so well.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 4:50pm
        Looking West                                                                                                       Looking East
 


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 5:32pm
WOW Great pictures 409!!


Posted By: swohio75
Date Posted: Mar 13 2013 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by ktf1179 ktf1179 wrote:

I am glad to see that get tore down as well, let's keep the tearing down of eyesores up. How about tearing down the dated 1970's City Building next Wink.
Eyesore? 

The City Building you mention was designed by noted Chicago architect Harry Weese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Weese

You might not like it, but it is a good example of 20th century modernism.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Mar 14 2013 at 6:13am
Originally posted by swohio75 swohio75 wrote:


Originally posted by ktf1179 ktf1179 wrote:

I am glad to see that get tore down as well, let's keep the tearing down of eyesores up. How about tearing down the dated 1970's City Building next Wink.

Eyesore? 

The City Building you mention was designed by noted Chicago architect Harry Weese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Weese

You might not like it, but it is a good example of 20th century modernism.


I believe ktf was joking by the icon posted. The city building is, by Middletown standards, a nice looking building and is reasonably pleasant to look at. The only thing wrong with the city building is the inhabitants.

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Mar 14 2013 at 11:18am
AMEN,VV


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 14 2013 at 5:19pm
 
 
 


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Mar 14 2013 at 6:48pm
Hey, that fancy executive office enclosure in the lower right photo looks kinda upscale doesn't it? Real wood or Sauter fiberboard?
Gotta salvage that for Mike P's home office.   

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: LMAO
Date Posted: Mar 14 2013 at 7:25pm

Leaving it as green space could “work well” as an extension to Smith Park, Gilleland said.

“As long as a historic building is not involved, I love to see new green space spouting all over town,” she said.

God forbid something happens to a "Historical Building."Sick and tired of hearing Historical,green space and South Main Street Snobs wish all of them would just crawl back into their caves and leave us normal folks alone. 

Be a good overflow parking lot for when Smith Park has something going on there.Move on to other pressing issues.Oh I forgot who I was talking to,are "SPINELESS ONES."LOL



Posted By: Bill
Date Posted: Mar 14 2013 at 10:31pm
What continues to hold Middletown back is the mentality of someone that could view anything here is "historical".  There are no national monuments here last time I checked. 
 
With the serious economic challenges this town and its inhabitants face for years to come, you think we would be a little more worried about preparing for our future instead of worrying about a past that matters to very few.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Mar 15 2013 at 6:45am
Today's Journal....

MIDDLETOWN REVITALIZATION

Possibilities open up for downtown Middletown without the Orman building

MIDDLETOWN —
A changed landscape means new possiblities for downtown redevelopment now that one of Middletown’s most well-known eyesores is being torn down, city officials and local businesses say

“It will be a hollow hole, an empty space. It will take a little while to get used to it not being there,” said Ron Cole, owner of CRC Automotive. “I hate to see old stuff go, but it’s time for it to come down.”

Driving up on the site post-deconstruction would probably be like when people first drove past where the downtown garage stood after its demolition, said City Manager Judy Gilleland.

“It will look very fresh and open instead of old and dilapidated,” she said

Leaving it as green space could “work well” as an extension to Smith Park, Gilleland said.

HMM, BELIEVE SOMEONE ELSE SUGGESTED THAT TOO JUDITH.

“As long as a historic building is not involved, I love to see new green space spouting all over town,” she said.



JUDITH MUST REALLY MEAN THIS AS SHE HAS JUST ABOUT DEMOLISHED THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN AREA. KINDA LOOKIN' LIKE THE SET FROM MAD MAX....A PROVERBIAL BARREN WASTELAND. HECK, WE'VE GOT "GREEN SPACE" GALORE DOWN THERE NOW. MORE WIDE OPEN SPACES THAN BUILDINGS. YESSIR, THIS DOWNTOWN AREA IS GONNA BE ONE SPIFFY GEM IN TOWN WHEN SHE'S DONE WITH IT. LOTS OF PARKING, LOTS OF GRASS, LOTS OF PLACES FOR "POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT". SHE'S GOOD AT TEARING DOWN. JUST NOT SO GOOD AT BUILDING UP OR OCCUPANCY OF EXISTING.

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 15 2013 at 10:56pm
 


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Mar 18 2013 at 2:26pm
Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

Hey, that fancy executive office enclosure in the lower right photo looks kinda upscale doesn't it? Real wood or Sauter fiberboard?
Gotta salvage that for Mike P's home office.   
Gee, thanks for the kind offer, Vet, but those walls have glass windows in them.  I am not allowed to have glass, or any sharp objects, in my padded cell...oops...I mean office, without constant supervision!!! LOL LOL LOL

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Mar 18 2013 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by swohio75 swohio75 wrote:

Eyesore? 
The City Building you mention was designed by noted Chicago architect Harry Weese.
 
Relax, SWO!!! It was an easy mistake.  City Hall might've been designed by Harry Weese, but inside it is a "HAIRY BEAST" that is eating up all of our money!!! LOL LOL LOL

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 18 2013 at 9:45pm
 


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Mar 19 2013 at 6:43am
Man, we've got money out the wazzou for tearing down buildings, but not a penny for street repairs, right? We're gonna have the best kept green space/empty lots around, as we continue to drive on the crumbling roads and avoiding the frame bending potholes. Why so much focus on old buildings and not one eye on the roads city officials? Where are your priorities? Try spreading them out in more equal proportions. Guess they don't have the ability to look at more than one thing at a time.

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 19 2013 at 8:14pm
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 21 2013 at 7:39pm
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 22 2013 at 11:52pm
  
 
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Mar 26 2013 at 8:04pm
The crane was disassembled and shipped out yesterday.
Apparently they will finish the north building before starting on the south.
 


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Apr 02 2013 at 9:10am
I thought they were suppose to be spraying down the dust at the Orman site. I drove by there yesterday and dust was flying everywhere. Hope it's not "contaminated" with asbestas.


Posted By: bumper
Date Posted: Apr 02 2013 at 11:21am
oh no its blowing all over the well field Shocked this is gonna cost ya...LOL


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 02 2013 at 4:31pm
The crane is back. They opened a hole in the roof of the
south building and dropped in a Bobcat to clean it out.
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 03 2013 at 11:09pm
 


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 04 2013 at 6:20am
I'm getting excited that we are getting so close to yet another area of "Green Space" in the downtown area. Will allow us to go down there and experience all the ........openness and , you know, green space. Judith must be getting so excited as another building topples and we get closer to Desolation Row. I suggest a photo op with the Mayor and civic leaders with Hissoner, Lawrence Mulligan reading yet another proclamation making this "Middletown Green Space/Parking Lot Day" at the next council meeting. Give the Journal another opportunity to soak up the valuable information supplied by the city as they do their "one-sided" reporting. What a treat!!!

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: Bill
Date Posted: Apr 04 2013 at 7:24am
Other than cost, how can you make any sensible complaint about demolishing this eyesore?  Pick your battles better, Vet.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 04 2013 at 7:38am
Originally posted by Bill Bill wrote:



Other than cost, how can you make any sensible complaint about demolishing this eyesore?  Pick your battles better, Vet.


Agree with you Bill. Wasn't picking a battle here. Just trying to say that they are dam good at knocking them down and creating alot of "nothingness". Just not good at replacing the empty lot with something of use. Nothing wrong with knocking down this thing. When was the last time you saw something replace what was removed?

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: Bill
Date Posted: Apr 04 2013 at 9:24am
Unfortunately it may take 10 or 20 years for some of this greenspace to  be used for anything.  We can just hope it is put to best use.


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 04 2013 at 9:34am

Bill - Other than cost, how can you make any sensible complaint about demolishing this eyesore?  Pick your battles better, Vet.

It was clearly a MISUSE of the RESTRICTED WELLFIELD PROTECTION FUND to the tune of $600,000 by City Hall.



Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 04 2013 at 9:33pm
 


Posted By: Rhodes
Date Posted: Apr 05 2013 at 12:48am
I got to see some of the demo work today.  I was a little surprised the city can't be more creative with their demolition dreams.  I can totally understand demolishing the first section.  It was a fire trap.  It fell apart like shredded paper.  This last section, not so much.  Even the roof on this last section is concrete rebar.  In other words, they could have parked cars and numerous other things on that roof, that's how strong the building is.  It took them all day just to tear down that back little corner.  I guarantee this is the majority of the demolition costs.

Now if I was in charge, what I would have done is only demolished the weaker sections, which would have opened up a large parking lot for this last section, which was built like a bomb shelter.  I'll go so far as to bet the demo costs of this last section is 70% of the bid amount approved.  So with the weak sections gone, huge new parking lot, and this leftover warehouse space, I would have left it on the back burner until the city could find someone to use that space as a ......  yes, a warehouse!  Some business would have eventually purchased the remaining section.  There is always a need for warehouse space.  If not now, then down the road.

I would be embarrassed to be responsible for this type of outcome.  It would show I was lacking.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 05 2013 at 8:43pm
 


Posted By: AKBobby
Date Posted: Apr 07 2013 at 9:29am
How bout the court of appeals across from the city building? That's a pretty nice building. I agree the city could bring in more business but I am all for tearing down old abandoned eyesores. Where Swallens used to be looks so much nicer now even though its green space.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 08 2013 at 9:12pm
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 12 2013 at 5:08pm
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 15 2013 at 5:23pm
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 17 2013 at 6:01pm
 


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Apr 17 2013 at 9:23pm
409 you have done a wonderful job with all the pictures of the orman building. I for one have enjoyed seeing progress in getting it down.


Posted By: ktf1179
Date Posted: Apr 18 2013 at 8:23am
Awesome job 409. I can't wait to drive past the city building soon and not see that building. Granted I love to keep old buildings and architecture this one would have been way to expensive to modernize.  


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 18 2013 at 6:47pm
Thanx!
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 19 2013 at 7:25pm
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 23 2013 at 5:34pm
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 25 2013 at 12:20pm
 
 
 


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 25 2013 at 4:16pm
It's down...
Looking west:
Looking east:
 


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 26 2013 at 12:19am
409
Thank you for all the wonderful photographs that you share with us.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Apr 27 2013 at 10:06am
Originally posted by Vivian Moon Vivian Moon wrote:

409
Thank you for all the wonderful photographs that you share with us.
You're welcome. It will be interesting to see the different view after remediation.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: May 24 2013 at 4:07pm
Getting closer...
 
 


Posted By: Stanky
Date Posted: May 24 2013 at 4:16pm
Ahh, the beautiful extension of Smith Park, according to Judy.   


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: May 28 2013 at 7:08pm
The safety/security fencing is down....looking east


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 6:31am
QUE THE SONGS

"I CAN SEE FOR MILES AND MILES"...... THE WHO

"THEY PUT UP A PARKING LOT"........THE PRETENDERS

Looking more and more like the sparsely populated west all the time, isn't it. Sure are developing alot of "open range and flatland".      Gotta make room for all that development a comin'.

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: ktf1179
Date Posted: May 29 2013 at 9:10am
I say keep the demolition going Wink, they should turn the wrecking ball towards the City council building next. I have never seen such a dark and depressing city building in my life.


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Jun 06 2013 at 12:20am
Straw and seed today.  'Green Acres' tomorrow?
Looks like equipment removal is about all that's left.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 06 2013 at 6:07am
Not to worry folks. It won't be long until we see another building being built on this site and another business starting at this location, offering high wages and a great benefits package for the people of Middletown. Based on past history for the city's program of demo-clearing-seeding-for sale-business purchasing-new business started, that has been so successful in our economic development program here, I have all the confidence that this will be a positive experience and another feather in the cap of the Gilleland administration. Keep the faith. Success is just around the corner.

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Jun 06 2013 at 6:25am
No doubt in my mind that the storm sewer fund will be "buying" this lot from the "Downtown Fund" for a few hundred thousand.  It would obviously be a great spot for a "storm water retention pond" a la the old Office Outfitters lot.  Confused

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Jun 17 2013 at 10:40pm
'Green Acres'


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Jun 18 2013 at 4:18am
To be sung to the theme from the TV show "Green Acres":
 

~~Green Acres is the place to be~~

~~Olde towne Middletowne is the life for me~~

~~Empty acreage spreading far and wide~~

~~Keep the truth, just give me that countryside. ~~



 ~~In the past is where I'd rather stay~~

~~I just can’t adjust to life today~~

~~I adore the tax-payers’ teat~~

~~Progress, I hate you…just give me South Main Street.~~


~~The whores…Few stores!!!~~

~~Foul air!!!  Governor’s Square!!!~~



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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jun 18 2013 at 5:25am

Mr Presta

I do believe we had two fine Retention Ponds at one time....one was named Yankee and the other was named Sunset.

 

 



Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Jun 18 2013 at 12:25pm
Love it Mike!!!


Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Jun 18 2013 at 11:02pm
Nice Mr. Presta but Middletown cant even get the "whores" right , seen a few hanging out on central a few evenings ago and man I am glad I had my doors locked , went straight to the do it your self car wash and hosed my truck down so it didn't catch anything geez !



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