Say it ain't so...
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Printed Date: Apr 19 2024 at 4:24pm
Topic: Say it ain't so...
Posted By: Historic House Guy
Subject: Say it ain't so...
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 1:53pm
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I just went to Dillman Grocery and all the shelves are half empty. At first I thought they may have got wiped out from the people freaked out about the storm so I asked and I was told they might be closing. Might be? sure looks that way to me. Why else would you let the stock get that low? Many things marked as clearance as well.
This will be a sad day for Middletown if this is so. A lot of people depend on that store but I can understand if those people just don't bring in enough money to keep it operating. Still sad though
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Posted By: Historic House Guy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 5:02pm
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I keep wondering about this. Is the store not sustainable or is it because the profits aren't enough or, "like they use to be". Times have changed. You wont see 3% in a savings account any more. Doe's that mean you shouldn't save? So you can't get 10% ROI out of a business any more; doe's that mean you shouldn't have a business? Where do these people think they're going to run off to and make things better? What about the 20 people you left jobless just because you don't feel you're being paid enough for your time? Is their no one local that would step in and keep the store open? Do you feel even slightly responsible for this since you've made so many posts about how bad this city is or will this just justify your opinion because you made it so?
I hope when you consider the sale of this building you will consider the hopelessness that made you give up and let someone else have an opportunity without you holding it ransom.
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Posted By: Paul Nagy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 5:41pm
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HHG, How absolutely rude and obnoxious of you to post such questions and comments to someone who has (and his family) provided so many jobs in Middletown for decades and has contributed so much to the community over and over again. If you can't do better than that you should quit posting. Paul Nagy |
Posted By: Historic House Guy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 5:52pm
| I'm sorry, should we only ask hard questions when it come to our government? We can't ask business owners? I like Steve, I get it. Not trying to shame anyone but this seems to be a broken record with businesses. Give up and cash out seem to be the common theme. I don't care if you think it's rude or not, I know a thing or two about being an Entrepreneur. That is much different than growing up in the family business. |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 5:57pm
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I must concur with Mr. Nagy. Historic House Guy: I wonder how long YOU would stay in your current business if you didn't make enough to make it worth your while??? ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 6:01pm
You sound a little confused!!! Businesses exist to make money!!! Governments exist to serve the people!!! (At least that was the intent of our founders.) That is the difference.
------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Historic House Guy wrote:Posted By: Historic House Guy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 6:10pm
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I was told the business doesn't make the money it use to. Wasn't told it didn't make money to be sustainable. As far as I know, a new owner isn't even an option and why should it be? The owner has trashed this town with his posts to this forum. Reap what you sow Steve. I'm sure your family would be proud! |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 6:23pm
------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Historic House Guy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 6:28pm
| Sorry Mike but I'm actually busy trying to build my families wealth not trying to cash one in. |
Posted By: Paul Nagy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 6:44pm
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HHG, That persons business is none of your business. His posts on this blog have been more helpful to this city then any posts you'll put on the rest of your obnoxious life. You obviously have a vendetta but your in an untenable position so you have to get personal and nasty. Why don't you go blog somewhere else until you learn some courtesy and respect for others? Why don't you tell us of all of your good works in the city of Middletown and how many jobs you have provided over how many years. You are really boring. Paul Nagy |
Posted By: Historic House Guy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 6:56pm
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Paul,
Don't tell me it's none of my business when it's 2 blocks from my house and i shop there 3 days a week. 80+ years and now all of the sudden this guy can't/won't take the time to keep it going because it doesn't pay what it use to...
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Posted By: Historic House Guy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 6:58pm
| Since hes gone so far out of his way to make this town seem like a sh*t hole, I'll be more than happy to offer him $50,000.00 for that dump. He should be more than happy to take the money and run. |
Posted By: FmrMide81
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 7:59pm
| So he's obligated to stay in business for YOUR convenience??? My oh my what a high opinion someone has of themself!!! Carry your sorry a$$ to Marsh and shut the hell up... |
Posted By: bumper
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 10:15pm
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HHG dude I will repeat what paul said,its none of your business!!!why should he keep it going when your having more people coming in to steal whatever they can put down their pants, steve did not make Middletown the crap hole city it is now, maybe if your not liking it maybe you should move out of your crap hole city... |
Posted By: Neil Barille
Date Posted: Dec 07 2013 at 10:31pm
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Perhaps HHG's account has been hacked. This doesn't sound like the reasonable person who has posted before.
If you thought about it -- if the business of selling chips, pop, and smokes to the low income people of that area was even moderately profitable, don't you think it would remain open?
Next time you have a customer respond to your restoration bid by saying "that's too much, can't you just take a little profit?" -- what will your response be?
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Posted By: Historic House Guy
Date Posted: Dec 08 2013 at 12:16am
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I've had enough of the sorry, pathetic, do nothing but whine and cry POS on this forum. I leave you all to your own useless lives.
Good bye losers.
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Posted By: bumper
Date Posted: Dec 08 2013 at 1:14am
| HHG you were the one crying over a store, were you looking for some cheese with your whine!! you came on this site being a Jack know it all!! so we sure won't miss you!!! |
Posted By: bumper
Date Posted: Dec 08 2013 at 1:22am
| and BTW hhg!! from where im sitting, your the real loser!! your the one that has a dump in the city of Middletown.. |
Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: Dec 08 2013 at 9:13am
| HHG, you lost all credibility with me when you previously endorsed the residential demolition blitzkrieg of "The Doogmeister." Just think, there may be a second round of residential demolition funding by the State of Ohio next year. Wow! Doogie can possibly demo another couple of hundred houses on top of what he's leveled so far. Doogie is your man so live with it. He's your (not my) NEIGHBORHOOD REJUVINATION guy! |
Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Dec 08 2013 at 11:21am
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So much for HHG and his opinion?
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Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Dec 08 2013 at 4:37pm
| Wow if those are actual posts by HHG then it is indeed pathetic. I have often disagreed with postings on this forum but I hope I would never be that rude to any one. HHG doesn't even know what the personal reasons may be for their decision. There will be another occupant in the building in the future. HHG needs to cool his jets and think before he posts venom. JMO |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 08 2013 at 6:18pm
HHG- Let's look at this from another prospective. The Dillman grocery, and family name, have been a mainstay in this community for many decades, offering the citizens a more "hometown feel" than the big chains like Kroger and Marsh. Folks like Steve, Mike P., 409 and myself have been here along time. We all have seen the good when the city was run correctly, to the bad we are all seeing now. The Dillman family has done alot for this community and should be appreciated. You can't just dismiss the contribution by saying "going out of his way to make this town a sh-- hole." Nothing could be further from the truth. We owe Steve and the Dillman family some gratitude for offering their family business choice as long as they have, given the competitive environment they are dealing with each day. It can't be easy competing against the mega-stores like a Kroger super store. The customer spending base has dried up over time, especially in the Dillman store location. Demographically and financially, the city has changed drastically as more and more folks with less disposable income have been invited to the city by Gilleland and company. They have focused on the creation of a ghetto comprised of people with very little money, some who rely on government handouts, and are driving respectable self-sustaining people, with money to spend away. Along with this stigma, we all get increases in crime, coupled with epidemic drug (heroin) use, prompting breakins and rampant theft. If Steve is in a situation where his store is constantly being robbed, where patronage has drastically decreased and where he received no help from the city because his store is outside the sacred downtown area, what is he suppose to do? He can't sustain a profitable business out of pocket. Besides, Steve has given us hints occasionally that this will happen as he plans his richly deserved retirement. Actually, this should come as no surprise based on his prior posts. I found it surprising that you responded the way you did about this situation. You seemed so even-keeled in your posts. Suddenly, you seemed to change in your demeanor, almost as if this isn't really you, but someone else using your forum name. Realizing you live just around the corner on Sutphin from the Dillman location, you still have the choice to drive down University to Marsh or to head out east to Kroger. The well hasn't totally dried up for you. There are always options. If retirement is where you're headed, Steve, enjoy it! You have earned it. It's been a long hard road for all of us planning retirement, hasn't it. ------------- I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over. |
Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 2:41am
| People with less disposable income? Vet clearly you haven't been food shopping on food stamp day lately. Compare my basket to these people that wouldn't work taste testing creme horns to mine and I'm the one that feels like I live in poverty. It's a sad day to see Dillman's closing if in fact they are. I remember going there a lot with my parents in the early to late 70's when we lived not far from the central ave. store. And then later through the 80's and 90's shopping at the store on Roosevelt with my wife and kids. I even worked for a janitorial company part time in the evenings in the 80's that swept, mopped, waxed and buffed the floors in the stores. Sad to see the store close (if that's whats happening) |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 6:11am
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Bo: "People with less disposable income? Vet clearly you haven't been food shopping on food stamp day lately. Compare my basket to these people that wouldn't work taste testing creme horns to mine and I'm the one that feels like I live in poverty" Bo, I know you and other working stiffs agree with me when I say that I get a warm feeling of contentment when I am standing in line watching the food stamp/ WIC (?)/ government handout folks produce all of that government paperwork to pay for their groceries .....and knowing I helped them with deductions from my paycheck, then writing that check to pay for mine.   It is the trend nowadays to take care of the "less fortunate" don't cha know, especially with the current administration in charge. If only I was invited to their government assisted house to watch their drug purchased big screen tv and drink their government purchase-assisted beer while laying on their rented couch. No time for that though......like most, gotta go to work to keep the money pipeline flowing for them. (Stereotyping here of course- some are valid) ------------- I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over. |
Posted By: itsamee
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 11:32am
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Honestly, They got priced out if anything. The cost of many items at Kroger or Wally World are cheaper. Im surprised Marsh still exists as they can hardly compete as well.
------------- Itsa me, mario! |
Posted By: ktf1179
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:46pm
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I did like the feel of Dillman's, it felt just like the IGA in Springboro that I grew up with. The only problem we had with Dillman's was the location on Central was out of the way for us to get too. Sadly those type of grocery stroes are dying off. I even heard that the old "Preston's IGA" in Springboro maybe closing as well. That one is dying thanks to the Wal-Mart and Kroger on 73, and Dorthy Lane Market, and Kroger on 741. |
Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:07pm
| Marsh may be the next one to bite the dust. |
Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:02pm
| Walmart starts out cheap and when they destroy all the competition they slowly raise prices. Has any one noticed the prices lately? They aren't cheap on a lot of things any more. |
Posted By: Iron Man
Date Posted: Jan 02 2014 at 7:37am
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Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Jan 04 2014 at 11:11am
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MIDDLETOWN Doors close at Dillman Foods Dillman Foods, which has been located at 2100 Central Ave., for 51 years, closed at 5 p.m. Saturday, said Steve Dillman, the third-generation grocer. He said many of the employees were there when the doors closed for the final time. Then they went into the back room and celebrated, he said. He wanted to thank his “loyal customers and the entire community” for their support of Dill-man Foods, which has operated in Middletown for 87 years. He called those years “a wonderful run, but it was time.” Later, he said, it was “a great trip.” Dillman said he’s negotiating to sell the building. He called the pending sale “a pretty sure thing,” but it won’t be finalized for a couple of months. For the last week, Dill-man held an inventory reduction sale. RICK MCCRABB ------------- Every morning is the dawn of a new error... |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jan 04 2014 at 11:38am
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I went over to Dillman's last week and pulled up in front of the store, looked up at the sign and all of a sudden I started to cry. I just couldn't go into the store so I returned home.
When I returned home I just couldn't understand why I was so upset but then I relized that it was just another part of my childhood that would disappear forever from the Middletown landscape.
Driving around this neighborhood is now like going to the funeral of a once proud city. |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Jan 04 2014 at 12:22pm
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Although Steve doesn't know or would recognize either my wife or I, we often shopped at Dillman's for the very nice speciality items they offered including the fine cakes, pies, ice cream, and appetizers they had available. My wife especially was fond and found a hit of a wonderful mozella and freshetta wrap they had at Thanksgiving, and another stuffed with salami. It was unique in the fact it offered a nice niche offering like a Dorothy Lane market, and general items available at the large stores. It is completely understandable why they decided to close.To your point: it is indeed tragic complete incompetence, greed, and snobbery at city hall has led to Middletown's death. It abounds all around- no escaping it. I work with many large Fortune 100 companies in cpg/ retail regarding seeing and embracing disruptive forces through technology to knock off a market leader.Middletown is a Blockbuster----not realizing what streaming would do to its model after Netflix, others, entered the market. In time, Blockbuster went bankrupt, bought by lowly Dish, and is selling its items at stores through the bankruptcy process. The difference between a Blockbuster and the city of Middletown you ask? At least Blockbuster realized it had failed, and took action with bankruptcy. Downtown Donham Abbey doesn't even know there exists a problem. And to think these morons believe they have accomplished anything other than utter and complete ruin. In the private sector, they would never work again. Middletown----RIP. City leaders- manslaughter. ------------- 'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Jan 04 2014 at 1:59pm
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And to think these morons believe they have accomplished anything other than utter and complete ruin. In the private sector, they would never work again. Middletown----RIP. City leaders- manslaughter.
Acclaro I can't wait to hear Mayor Mulligan's State of the City Address. What have they really accomplished over the past five years? |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Jan 05 2014 at 1:49pm
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"One of our most significant accomplishments over the past five years I have been Mayor is passing the ordinance which allows a resident to sit out trash for Rumke only for two days before trash pickup." "This in turn, will make Middletown and its image better."- Larry Mulligan, Mayor A milestone. ------------- 'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jan 05 2014 at 3:59pm
A TRULY DYNAMIC STATEMENT FROM A PROMINENT CITY LEADER........ WITH RELATIVELY LITTLE SIGNIFICANCE. A LITTLE LATE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THE IMAGE ISN'T IT BUD? THE IMAGE SHIP SAILED A DECADE AGO. THIS, ACCORDING TO LAWRENCE, IS A CITY HIGHLIGHT? AND, A "NOT SO THOUGHT OUT" ONE AT THAT. SITUATION FOR EXPLANATION LARRY---- A RESIDENT AND THEIR FAMILY ARE GOING OUT OF TOWN FOR THE WEEKEND AND WON'T RETURN UNTIL AFTER MONDAY. TRASH PICK-UP DAY IS MONDAY. DO THEY LET THE FULL GARBAGE CANS STAY IN THE GARAGE UNTIL THE NEXT MONDAY OR DO THEY SET THE CANS OUT ON FRIDAY BEFORE LEAVING TO BE PICKED UP ON MONDAY? YOU MAKE THE CALL MR. MAYOR. ------------- I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over. |
Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: Jan 05 2014 at 11:58pm
| More laughable triviality from Sir Larry from S. Main Street. |
Posted By: ktf1179
Date Posted: Jan 06 2014 at 8:42am
| Marsh in Franklin, and IGA in Springboro are also very close to going out of business as well. I was in IGA a few weeks ago and they only had one employee running the registers and customer service. |