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Topic: an apology is owed
Posted By: middiemom
Subject: an apology is owed
Date Posted: Dec 03 2018 at 9:41pm
So, a post accusing Mr. Vitori of laundering money, calling children brats, and wild accusations has been deleted? No worries, I have screen shots of all of those posts. This forum was supposed to be a place where people of differing opinions could share their opinions about their community. Now it has divulged into personal attacks, slandering family members, attacking children, defending "men" who accost women in the streets, and make unfounded accusations insinuating crimes  have been committed against people who they disagree with  . It is fueled by people who hold grudges for their plight in life. Nelson, I know you're out there.  


Buddah wrote.....

Did the poor wittle girwl get her panties all in a wad because a big bad WHITE GUY got in her face?

For decades the women wanted to be treated just like men - well - welcome to the show - that's how us men have been handling business for thousands of years.


That should play well with women voters if you run, Bob. 
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Again, why was that particular thread deleted? I will await an apology that I'm sure will never come. 


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Replies:
Posted By: middielover
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 6:58am
Ms Vitori

Have you apologized for stealing your employees withholding taxes?


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 7:26am
Obfuscation and misdirection but what should I expect from the "men" on this thread? I will sit here and wait on the apology that will never come. How would you all feel if your wives were subjected to this kind of treatment? I know, you'd probably sit back and say nothing because you are all spineless. Just like when it is time to run for council, all year you all have all the answers to fix our community, but when it is time to put your money where your mouth is....nothing. Nothing but excuses. Then when someone steps up and takes the bull by the horns you bravely sit behind your little computers criticize, make wild accusations , and slander people who are trying to make a difference in our city. So typical of the "men" in this community. 

On a lighter note, for all the positive people in the community, please join your fellow citizens downtown for first Friday this Friday. Many businesses and restaurants await your patronage. Plus, Santa will be at the PAC! Bring the kiddos for pictures and memories! Clap


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Posted By: middielover
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 8:56am
Ms Vitori

Your Trump like diversion of attention to your real problems is to be applauded.

However, your claim regarding your interaction with an “Old Entitled White Man” is very much in dispute.

While there is no doubt regarding your embezzlement of employee tax withholdings.


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 9:05am
give it a break, mom-- u aren't that important and u honestly aren't receiving a lot of local sympathy outside of your 2-block mutual admiration society.

Over the years, most here have taken painful personal shots, absorbed them and moved on still being here. I didn't care at all for the attacks towards your family, or those aimed at anyone else here.

Ironic that 2 of the forum's most critical "middies"(lover/29 and mom) now use this forum with the most negative and personal attacks during the musa decade +. Very hypocritical but no real surprise to those who have been here throughout.

Nice efforts with former downtown area activity for those who want it. The new dart bar on Central should open soon to be a very positive entity along with the bbq shop and Stefanos potential. Browns Run continues to be the #1 local music venue, this Friday featuring the very interesting new band of locals calling themselves the Optimists, followed by the very popular Chris and Cecil duo. Most are looking forward to the return of the hottest band in the area, Rob Hoffman and the Influence(often featuring top guest musicians).

So--your main attacks were removed to cement your entitlement(screen shots or not). Why drag it all back to the front again?





Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 9:35am
I would hope that anyone whose family, or children for that matter, would defend themselves against wild accusations and slanderous statements. But again, I wouldn't expect you "men" to have the guts to stand up for anything. Why can Middielover come on this forum and do what he or she does and expect no recourse? Again, why was the thread with slanderous statements and the name calling of children deleted? You people really have no idea what you're talking about. 

Nelson? Do you like the Reds? How about the Bengals? 


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Posted By: redbengals
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 11:05am
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/705.92

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Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 11:23am
Nelson, Nelson, Nelson. Wacko

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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 04 2018 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by middiemom middiemom wrote:

I would hope that anyone whose family, or children for that matter, would defend themselves against wild accusations and slanderous statements. But again, I wouldn't expect you "men" to have the guts to stand up for anything. Why can Middielover come on this forum and do what he or she does and expect no recourse? Again, why was the thread with slanderous statements and the name calling of children deleted? You people really have no idea what you're talking about. 

Nelson? Do you like the Reds? How about the Bengals? 


Ok, don't know Ms. Vitori on a personal basis. This is the third post referring to the "men" thing and how disgusting they must be in this person's eyes. Just wonder what happened to this lady for her to be so focused on men hating as she seems to be. She seems obsessed and over the top.

I don't understand your infatuation with tearing the opposite sex to pieces.   

There are a few Vitori's that I knew back in the late 60's that attended Fenwick when it was still on University Blvd. All seemed very nice and were pleasant to be around as I remember it. Just wonder what happened in her case. Not all men are mean old bitter people Ms. Vitori but you seem to want to include ALL men in one category. If they happen to be mean and bitter, it took a catalyst to trigger those emotions. Usually, that would be an overwhelming negative experience with authoritarian figures such as city leaders, school officials, police and others who negatively impacted their lives over the years.

Might be getting a little personal and apologize for that if I offended Ms. Vitori, but it is puzzling on this public forum that a woman is so bitter toward men and leaves nothing to doubt as to her feelings.

The family attack is another issue and better left alone.

IF this is the same Amy Vitori that ran for council, I voted for her. I will not do that again if she runs for another term. She has demonstrated she is not able to communicate with the male sector on this forum and I would imagine within the council/city business venue as well.

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Posted By: Nelson Self
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 3:57pm
Ms. Ami Vitori/Middiemom -

After having spoken yesterday and today with both John Beagle and Adam Lewis, administrators of the MUSA blog, I have, out of necessity, "TEMPORARILY" re-established my membership under the user name Nelson Self.

Ms. Ami Vitori/Middiemom, please be advised that I voluntarily relinquished my ONLY membership (ANALYTICAL) over two months ago.  I HAVE NOT POSTED SINCE AND AM ABIDING BY MY EARLIER ASSURANCES TO SPIDERJOHN.

Both Mr. Beagle and Mr. Lewis understand that I am not surreptitiously posting as RED BENGALS or anyone else that you may IMAGINE.  I had only one account contrary to your strange comments.

Out of fairness to me, and in furtherance of your own emotional well-being, please cease and desist your ongoing commentary about me.

Sincerely,

Nelson Self



Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 4:38pm
Welcome back, Nelson*. Please refer to me as middiemom in the future. If you weren't trolling this site how did you know I was referencing your three user names? Weird..... Cease and desist against commentary regarding you?!?!?!?!!?! So funny as you have spent YEARS trying to destroy Mr. Adkins and "one Donham abbey"( which is not funny, at all) and those whom you don't agree with. At least you are being transparent now after I caught on to you.

*ANALytical**

**redbengals


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Posted By: Nelson Self
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 4:44pm
To:  John Beagle and Adam Lewis -

Thank you for allowing me to present the facts regarding Ami Vitori's ongoing obsession with me.

Nelson Self


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 4:51pm
To: Nelson

Thank you for FINALLY reverting back to your original username. I never got the analytical redbengals thing. Very odd to have three usernames.

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Posted By: MattR
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 6:56pm
A sitting city council member anonymously attacking citizens for critiques of city actions is a thing I don't get and find very odd.


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 7:42pm
Hey mr.self — my private recommendation was strictly for your own mental well-being.
What is going on here now is beyond anything prior imo.
A lot of tension and pressure around here, and no good coming from watching the current meltdown.

Hopefully everyone heals and preserves their own well-being.
Break the obsession and move on with their lives.
This current mess ain’t worth it...


Posted By: redbengals
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 7:47pm
She




Loves





Kielbasa



When is last time she saw her feet?



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Posted By: MattR
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 8:39pm
I don't need your recommendations; didn't ask for them and don't want them. Your snide comments on peoples mental health are crude and offensive.


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 9:24pm
This thread is like nothing I have ever witnessed in my whole life. Just WOW! "men" losing their minds and Nelson has reposted as redbengals again to to try and deceive people to not know he has three usernames. LOL why did you delete your posts, analytical/nelson/redbengals? you never told us. 

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Posted By: Nelson Self
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 9:44pm
Ms. Ami Vitori/Middiemom -

After having spoken yesterday and today with both John Beagle and Adam Lewis, administrators of the MUSA blog, I have, out of necessity, "TEMPORARILY" re-established my membership under the user name Nelson Self.

Ms. Ami Vitori/Middiemom, please be advised that I voluntarily relinquished my ONLY membership (ANALYTICAL) over two months ago.  I HAVE NOT POSTED SINCE AND AM ABIDING BY MY EARLIER ASSURANCES TO SPIDERJOHN.

Both Mr. Beagle and Mr. Lewis understand that I am not surreptitiously posting as RED BENGALS or anyone else that you may IMAGINE.  I had only one account contrary to your strange comments.

Out of fairness to me, and in furtherance of your own emotional well-being, please cease and desist your ongoing commentary about me.

Sincerely,

Nelson Self



Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 9:59pm
Welcome back,Nelson...as if you never left right, analytical/redbengals. again, why did you delete your posts? 

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Posted By: redbengals
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 10:04pm
C U Next Tuesday

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Posted By: Nelson Self
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 10:12pm
Red Bengals -

The next Middletown City Council meeting is Tuesday, December 18th ……. not next Tuesday.

You could do everyone a world of good by informing Ami Vitori once and for all that you are someone separate and distinct from me.

I respectfully ask for your consideration of this request.

Nelson Self (formerly Analytical)


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 10:30pm
lol Matt—if u r referring to my last posting, it was to mr. self only
I do not know redbengal middielover29 or you.

As for any other poor soul involved with this egotistical mess, quit while you can
It will only get worse

Sticks and stones—glass houses
Screen names
Words
A true sh*t storm of vanity


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 10:31pm
Or is this all merely an audition for the real housewives of Middietown?


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 11:06pm
Another all time low has been reached on this site by nelson/analytical/redbengal! It wasn't bad enough that you all condone a "man" accosting a woman in the street, Buddah doubling down on it, now you call a woman one of the most vile names in the English language? This site really is a place for old men to whine and moan as the world around them changes. really abhorrent behavior. You all are showing your true colors.

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Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 05 2018 at 11:09pm
You could do everyone a world of good by informing Ami Vitori once and for all that you are someone separate and distinct from me.

I respectfully ask for your consideration of this request.

Nelson Self (formerly Analytical)

And currently redbengals 


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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 8:20am
Originally posted by middiemom middiemom wrote:

Another all time low has been reached on this site by nelson/analytical/redbengal! It wasn't bad enough that you all condone a "man" accosting a woman in the street, Buddah doubling down on it, now you call a woman one of the most vile names in the English language? This site really is a place for old men to whine and moan as the world around them changes. really abhorrent behavior. You all are showing your true colors.


Mercy middiemom, what happened to you to make you so bitter toward the opposite sex? You demonstrate a harsh hatred for men, even more so than your average women's lib crusader.

mom:

"This site really is a place for old men to whine and moan as the world around them changes"

Now, if the men were to have said the same thing in relation to "young white women" whining/moaning, you would be the first in line to spew some vial crap about that but, apparently, because you are a woman (this could work for a minority as well), you think you are special and have free speech rights that the rest of us don't have. Mercy, are you mistaken. Still, some of us don't buy into the new thinking of "special rights for special groups within our society including women and minorities"

Go out and earn respect if you want respect. Be judged on merit rather than crutches like skin color or gender. Constantly berating "old white men" isn't going to get that respect. Your comments indicate you have no respect for older people who came before you and who have put in their time, especially older "white men". Do you feel the same way towards your dad and grandfather? Just curious. How about "old white veterans"? Do you hate them as well?

Granted, some of the comments on this forum, even ones that I have posted in the past, are not civil in nature and shouldn't have been posted, but, then again, you are not helping matters when you yourself, name call and create a hostile forum environment. You, nor I, can accuse those who post abrasive comments here if we ourselves are doing the same thing as a response.

We are all guilty of this practice at one time or another. I am a poster child for abrasion here and fully admit it. Trying to be more diplomatic but is hard at times due to the anger created with any given subject. I realize there is a more pleasant way of communicating my ideas but have failed at times to abide by that practice.

mom:

"It wasn't bad enough that you all condone a "man" accosting a woman in the street"

Again, "man" accosting a woman"??? What was reported on prior posts was that the man had, at most, a heated conversation with you concerning property. That is what we know. I see accosting being of a physical nature which has not been reported here. Since when does a conversation, even a heated one, measure up to being "accosted"? Seems to be an embellished remark on your part doesn't it? Is this remark some added drama on your part?

We "all don't condone a physical accosting situation of a "woman in the street". No one would. But, as reported, it doesn't appear that this happened.
The man was apparently very angry at you and he voiced his opinion to get his message across. You seem to have taken his angry remarks and labeled it as "accosting" and played the gender card as well. The gender card will not work as the women of this country wanted equal rights and received them years ago with the women's lib marches. You have your rights. You are EQUAL but not SPECIAL in society. You shouldn't get special preferred treatment because of gender and minorities shouldn't get special and preferred treatment because of their nationality or skin color. Both must stop using this tactic to gain favored status as we are all suppose to be equal. Not so sure that is the case nowadays though. The "old white men" of this society will not bow down and become subservient due to gender or minority demands. No need to. We are all equal... remember? Those with "gender special" issues and those who have "minority's are special" thoughts need to lose those thoughts as they are only causing further divides in society and really wasting their time.   

mom:

"You all are showing your true colors."

You as well mom. Works both ways.

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Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 11:31am
Once again, I hope in all further interactions you all stop referring to me as Ms. Vitori. Once again, I am not Ami.

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Posted By: redbengals
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 11:46am
You are 100% her. seems you like to delete things as well 

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Posted By: redbengals
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 11:49am
I would have voted for vitori, but I dont like big government 

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Posted By: redbengals
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 11:50am
amy (middiemom,Bratsmom,Fenwickmom) is only bipartisan because her ass fits on both sides of the aisle 

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Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 12:11pm
Wow!! Red(analytical/Nelson) you couldn’t have voted for her bc you live in Missouri. Now we are cursing on a website intended for citizens to share their opinions. This site has definitely taken a nose dive. I can’t believe they let you post anymore after the filthy name you called me. Now you resort to cursing. Typical Appalachian behavior, I guess. You are 100% a fool.



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Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 12:12pm
I’ve never deleted any posts here, Nelson.

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Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 1:22pm
Mr. Beagle and Mr. Lewis, why is redbengals allowed to call me the most vile term people used to demean women? Why is he allowed to use curse words and make fun of the female form? When is enough enough?

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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 1:52pm
so--if redbengals is not Mr.Self(honestly never thought that it was), and middiemom is not Ms.Vitori---then who are these freaky people and why are they going back and forth this way??? Why do they and anyone else care and keep this going? I know that the downtown area ladies keep constant drama going....

Someone please explain...
Thanx!


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 2:12pm
Spider, I am not Ms. Vitori and I hope that no one believes Nelson/analytical/reds lies. He is who he is. I am merely stating my opinions and supporting the downtown plan and events that happen there. My friends and I love to have some wine, shop and eat. I’ve NEVER engaged in vile name calling and will not stand for it. I have no idea why it is tolerated on this site. If standing up for yourself and others is freaky then I am a super freak. I won’t stand for Nelson/analytical/reds bully tactics.

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Posted By: middielover
Date Posted: Dec 06 2018 at 5:45pm
middlemom (Ms Vitori or Ms Vitori closest friend)

Please explain to the public what is going on with your $56,000 tax lien.

Have you worked out a payment plan?
Going to challenge lien?
Going to jail?

As an elected official and public figure you owe the citizens and taxpayers you are sworn to serve an explanation.


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 07 2018 at 9:33am
No one owes you anything lover. Get over yourself.

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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 11 2018 at 7:59am
after re-reading this thread(why did I do that?)maybe middiemom owes mr.Self a very serious apology?


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 11 2018 at 8:54am
Go reread another thread, spider. I did apologize to Nelson for thinking he was that psychotic redbengals crazy person. Me thinks you are trying to stir the pot. 🤔

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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 11 2018 at 9:36am
lol—not sure how many times under how many headings that u taunted mr.Self(50+?) in what probably wasn’t his our your conflict—still not sure where either of you fit in to this ugliness. Your cauldron has been stirred enough—hardly by this end—was anything solved or settled?
Insults,intimidation and name-calling seldom solve anything.

A recurring reminder to all of us

And a community reminder to be ready for the opening of House of Brews darts bar on central ave—this will be the nicest and newest facility in the city!
Also Chris Lester and Cecil Delloma Friday evening @ Browns Run where EVERY Friday is a happening!

Let’s all support one another and the entire community!


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 11 2018 at 4:41pm
'Cauldron", Spider? What are you trying to insinuate? I get it. A woman with a different opinion or one that challenges the male status quo is a witch, or far worse names that have been used on this site by the unhinged redbengals. This site never ceases to amaze me with the sexism.  

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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 11 2018 at 4:53pm
typical pot calling the kettle....never any sexism accusations towards ms.moon or any wimmin prior---honestly screen names cure most of that besides it is the message more than the messenger imo and this whole blow up occurred far from this site until someone blew it up on facebook--tis ok though--most males aware of it say they will stasy out of these ladies businesses if that is how they feel...

on to more important things---anyplace down there doing gift-wrapping for a fee or donation to a worthy cause other than DMI or the hysterical district?


Posted By: middiemom
Date Posted: Dec 12 2018 at 12:07am
Spider, I agree, there have never been any sexist accusations to Vivian or other women before. But this site has hit an all time low with Bob saying my “panties “ were in a bunch* , redbengals calling me a “C U next Tuesday” and you referencing a cauldron when I disagreed with you. “Gentlemen”, can we keep it above the belt? Doubt it.



* Haven’t forgotten, Bob. That definitely won’t play well with women voters. Screenshots are priceless especially with your picture on it!

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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Dec 12 2018 at 8:54am
fair enough mom---I didn't like the personal shots either and hope that we get better and move on to positive things....redbengal has it tough enough rooting for the reds and bungles--enough to drive anyone to the brink...and I have heard many times that there is a coven down on central(not joking though it is humorous)

back to the important subject------giftwrapping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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