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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: Oct 10 2010 at 9:42am |
Crimes citywide dropping, but
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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So thats where all the dealers and hookers moved to ! When you run them out of one neighborhood they just go to another.
Cops don't want to have to deal with dealers & hookers they might be armed ! I think it's a union rule when a call comes in about drug dealing & hookers you have to wait an hour before you respond...it gives them time to change corners or hide.
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No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!
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viper771
MUSA Resident Joined: Mar 16 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 221 |
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Start doing drug testing for people on Section 8.. and see a lower number of people on the program. If I had to do random drug testing to be in the army, people who are getting money from the govt should have to do a drug test. Not everyone on Section 8 is taking advantage of it. Some people really need it. But, I see a lot of people on it that shouldn't be. It shouldn't take 2 hrs for the cops to come when the police station is a few minutes away. Also, a lot of these "run down areas" could look a lot better if people took some pride in cleaing up their area and being responsible for themselves. I am so tired of picking up trash in my front yard from lazy ass people throwing trash out of their cars, or just tossing it on my yard as they walk by. |
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Bobbie
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 05 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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I am so much not a fan of the Midd Journal. It seems like everytime I read an article - it always leaves me with more questions. I read this article, again the city placing blame on Consoc - however only 10% are the problem makers. One would think that some of the calls probably did not result in arrests - so not necessarily should be kicked off the program. A breakdown of the calls should be provided. I would also think you could not be kicked off a program till you are found guilty. Are you not presumed innocent till found guilty. I will be the first to say that 10% is 10% to many when they are getting free money - free to them, costly to me. What is the average for some of the other agencies that run Sec 8, such Butler Metropolitan? Where all of the Section 8 homes that they were called on ran by Consoc, or are some of them Butler Met. If they are not, getting rid of Consoc will not eleviate the problem. More disturbing in this article is the 2 hour turn time for an officer to arrive, and the attitude. They mention the drug intervention program. Seems like I remember a young man that failed in that program was recently killed. I would like to know the statistics on that program - how many come in and how many are kicked out. Yet they say this has helped decrease crime.
What do you say Middletown Journal - why don't you start telling the whole story and not just what makes the city look perfect. Things can never get better unless you state and fix the issues. Denial of problems, does not make them go away.
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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" I would also think you could not be kicked off a program till you are found guilty. Are you not presumed innocent till found guilty."
I don't know how it got turned around,probably lost in translation in some supreme court ruling,but to me it's always been "guilty until proven innocent". If you were innocent until proven guilty then you would not have to prove your innocence. Trying going to court and saying your innocent until proven guilty,it doesn't work.
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No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Folks, you seem to be missing a key statement in The Journal story. (A statement that also backs up a lot of what I have been opining here in this forum.):
My interpretation of this bit of “government-speak”???
Now, does anyone remember which neighborhoods were at (or very near) the top of the list in that report??? Well, I don’t want you to take my word for it, so you’ll have to look it up for yourselves, but here are a couple of hints: The neighborhood at the very top of the list is “In a Historic District” and has the lowest “Vacant Housing” rate (4.00%) of any neighborhood on the list. Another neighborhood very near the top of the list includes Bull Run Arboretum and has the second lowest “Vacant Housing” rate (4.04%) of any neighborhood on the list. The list can be found here: http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3223Draw your own conclusions. |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Nelson...Himself
MUSA Resident Joined: Sep 08 2010 Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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Thanks..so..much..for..your..posts..Miss..Vivian..and..Mike.
The..Community..Revitalization..Department..is..spending..$97,000+..for..one..house..in..Ward..2.
This..purchase/rehab/resale..project..is..located...not..real..far..from..the..Sonny..Hill..Community..Center.
In..talking..with..local..real..estate..professionals..they're..astounded..by..the..$97,000+..expenditure.
Didn't..a..certain..City..department..head..say..that..it..was..OK..to..lose..up..to..$75,000..on..house..projects?
Judging..by..the..list..of..properties..acquired..and..undergoing..rehab..it..seems..that..money..is..no..object.
What..a..City..as..VietVet..would..say.
The..4th..floor..of..Municipal..Building..has..some..vermin..blowing..our..tax..dollars..says..Miss..Vivian.
Let's..hope..that..the..current..U.S...Congress..doesn't..approve..more..Federal.."Schtimulus..Moolah."
It..wasn't..long..ago..that..a..senior..City..staff.."expert"..hoped..to..get..$19,000,000..more..in..NSP..funds.
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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No Nelson that was HUD that said that not you buddy Adkins.
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Nelson...Himself
MUSA Resident Joined: Sep 08 2010 Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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Pacman,
I..re-read..your.."cut..&..paste"..post..of..the..2/2010.City..Council's..Housing..Sub-Committee..meeting.
I..thank..you..once..again..for..providing..the..comments..reportedly..made..by..Mr...Adkins.
Did..he..ever..tell..you..who..at..HUD..informed..him..that..it..was..OK..to..lose..up..to..$75,000/project?
Since..you..brought..up..this..topic..we'd..like..to..know..more..Pacman.
Please..inform..us??
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Pacman
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