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1970's Vintage HUD and the City of Middletown

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nelson Self Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 28 2010 at 8:34pm
Mike -
 
In reviewing these Urban Ohio photos you'll see a couple of shots that include HUD project signs.  This project was funded by HUD via the Neighborhood Development Program (NDP).  In 1975 the HUD Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) program came into existence and replaced conventional Urban Renewal, NDP and some other smaller categorical grant programs.
 
SW Ohio/Whomever You Are -
 
You're correct.  This was an Urban Ohio posting.
 
Please explain how that my post claims personal involvement with this project?  However, during the years that this project was being implemented I worked in Bentorn Harbor, MI and Pawtucket, RI on similar NDP-funded grants.  My work history goes back to 1971 so I know of what I speak.
 
You might try being a little less provocative and little bit better informed the next time you feel compelled to denigrate someone!  Come out of the closet.
 
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So nice to see Mr. Self take credit for something he didn't do. This is simply a repost from a thread at Urbanohio.com

Mike, conceptual planning for the mall began in the late 1960s as documented in a comprehensive plan for Downtown Middletown. I think it's from 1968. I have seen a copy of it.

Here's the thread from UrbanOhio-->http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,6184.0.html . There is an additional posting that is related to the post that is included in this forum. But I agree, work did not begin until the 1970s.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike_Presta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 28 2010 at 6:26pm
Nelson,
 
Great pictures!
 
However, I believe that you are a bit off on the timeline.
 
City Centre was enclosed during the mid-1970's.  I worked for McGraw (the first time) from 1973 until March of 1976, at which time I rejoined Kaiser Engineers on a project in California.  McGraw's office at that time was on the corner of 1st Avenue and  Canal Street.
 
Although I worked mostly at construction sites, during the periods that I worked in the engineering office we often walked down Central Avenue at noontime to eat lunch, go to the bank, etc.
 
It was definitely during that era that the enclosure of City Centre began. 
 
The original plan called for an "International food court" similar to the one in Kansas City.  I recall discussing this, and whether the demographics of Middletown would support such a food court, especially in the downtown area.  The general agreement was that Middletown "was not a pimple on Kansas City's @ss" and that even though many of us that worked in McGraw's Engineering department would like such an eatery, "international" cuisine would likely fail in this location.
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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CREDITS -- Urban Ohio:  Construction pics of City Centre Mart/Mall, Middletown, Oh circa 1970s -- November 17, 2005, 10:16:08 PM
  
In browsing through the Middletown Public Library's online historical collection, I came across several construction pictures from the early 1970s of Middletown's City Centre Mart (renamed Mall at some point).  I thought I would share them here.  Most are in Black and White.

Plans to make downtown Middletown more suburban actually began in the late 1950s with an experiment that shut off Central Ave to vehicle traffic and created the pedestrian Central Plaza.  I'm not quite sure how long this lasted, but at some point in the 1960s, a local artist was asked to create some renderings of new storefronts for buildings along Central Ave.  One of those renderings appears below:

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By the late 1960s, a new direction was taken (probably because the Middletown received several millions in federal dollars) to enclosed the intersection of Central and Broad Streets and extend that enclosure 500 feet in each direction to created an indoor, climate controlled mall.  The old intersection would serve as the focal point with a large fountain.   Next is a rendering of the mall's inside that must have been developed during the planning stages:

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The remaining pictures are mostly of the canopy's construction.  Part of the project involved removing old, deteriotated buildings.  You get a chance to see how the area looked before the mall and before some of the buildings were torn down.

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Both the Filson's and Weber's buildings were casualties of the mall's construction:
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And finally, a completed entrance.   This was known as the West Entrance at Main Street and what was Central.  Each entrance had some sort of public artwork or fountain.
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The mall's removal began in the early 2000s and the project was completed in Winter 2003.  I have posted some pics in the forum on how the area looks today.  I have some pics of the mall prior and during its removing, but they aren't electronic.
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