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Topic: Art Central FoundationPosted: Feb 26 2012 at 12:03am |
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Art Central Foundation eyes old Masonic TempleDowntown building is one of four whose future the city is considering.By Michael D. Pitman, Staff Writer 10:54 PM Saturday, February 25, 2012 MIDDLETOWN — The city is considering the future of four downtown properties, including the former Masonic Temple, which a local organization has an interest in continuing to use. Cincinnati State Technical & Community College is planning to use the former CG&E building, 1 N. Main St., and the senior center, adjacent to the Middletown City Building, as it expands into Butler County. That leaves the city with the former Bank One, First National Bank, Masonic Temple and Manchester Inn & Conference Center buildings in its portfolio of downtown buildings. And as the city begins to look at the future of these buildings, the Art Central Foundation is asking the city to consider selling or donating the former Masonic Temple to them. “We approached the city of Middletown last year about acquiring the property for continued use by the foundation,” said Jim Edwards, vice president of the Art Central Foundation. “Our goal here is to have a permanent home for our organization, its programs and to help in the revitalization of the downtown area.” The Art Central Foundation has been in its building at 4 N. Main St. for four years, first being tenants of the late Perry Thatcher, who died in December 2010, and now tenants of the city. The foundation is only charged by the city the cost to maintain the building, which was $14,573 in 2011. Officials with the Art Central Foundation would like to make improvements, including adding an elevator to the property, but doesn’t want to invest if they don’t have a long-term future at the site. “We don’t want to sink money into a building that’s not ours. That’s not fiscally responsible,” said Art Central Foundation president Sue Wittman, who added that the organization has suspended and moved events from the building because of the uncertainty. “The building suits our purposes beautifully.” The city had purchased the former CG&E, Bank One, First National, Masonic Temple buildings in October 2010 for $300,000 and the Manchester Inn & Conference Center in February 2011 for $175,000. And while city leaders will debate how to unload the buildings — since they don’t want to be in the property ownership business according to Mayor Larry Mulligan. Mulligan said the city needs to evaluate all of its downtown properties and determine their best uses. “It could very well be that the Art Central Foundation acquires (the former Masonic Temple building),” he said. “There are a lot of options that we’ll probably be considering. We don’t need to be in any rush to do anything.” A contingent of supporters of the Art Central Foundation addressed council last week, including Cynda Kash, a board member with Citizens for Historical and Preservation Services of Butler County. She was also concerned with the fate of the Manchester Inn and former First National Bank building. “We know they’re mothballed, but as my experience as a preservationist, that’s just a forerunner of saying a building is deteriorating and has to come down,” she said. The city spent $297,000 to maintain the buildings in 2011. Those payments included $172,330 in utilities and $74,800 for maintenance, which included one-time mothballing costs for the Manchester Inn and First National Bank properties. The city also collected $173,200 in rent revenues from tenants in the former Bank One, First National Bank and Masonic Temple buildings. One of those tenants is the Art Central Foundation. The city stands to be paid $202,000 when the Cincinnati State deal is completed and Higher Education Partners purchases the CG&E building to develop the college’s downtown campus. “We obviously want to make sure the Cincinnati State deal is inked and they have the buildings that they need before we consider putting buildings on the market or donating buildings,” Gilleland said. The city’s contract with Higher Education Partners does hinge on the separate agreement Higher Education has with Cincinnati State. The city’s contract will only be sign once Cincinnati State signs its deal. City officials are fine-tuning a contract they are set to sign with Cincinnati State’s developer, Higher Education Partners, and that agreement hinges on the developer and school signing their contract. The former CG&E building is one of five city-owned properties in downtown that were former privately owned buildings. And once all contracts are signed in the Cincinnati State deal, City Manager Judy Gilleland said phase two of shaping downtown will begin — selling off the remaining city-owned buildings that were purchased in anticipation of Cincinnati State’s downtown campus. |
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Stanky
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 at 7:19am |
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“We know they’re mothballed, but as my experience as a PRESERVATIONIST, that’s just a forerunner of saying a building is deteriorating and has to come down,” she said.
The last thing this town needs is another PRESERVATIONIST who seeks to keep old buildings around, of course at minimal or zero cost to the nonprofit seeking the handout, while adding very little to the tax base. Stop being stuck in the past. |
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 at 9:39am |
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"The city had purchased the former CG&E, Bank One, First National, Masonic Temple buildings in October 2010 for $300,000 and the Manchester Inn & Conference Center in February 2011 for $175,000. And while city leaders will debate how to unload the buildings — since they don’t want to be in the property ownership business according to Mayor Larry Mulligan".
THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP PURCHASING PROPERTY ALL OVER THE CITY MULLIGAN? WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
Mulligan said the city needs to evaluate all of its downtown properties and determine their best uses. SO BASICALLY, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE IS THAT THE CITY IS PURCHASING PROPERTY AROUND TOWN WITH NO CLUE AS TO THE END GOAL OF THE PURCHASE? THAT IS ILLOGICAL AND INEPT THINKING AT IT'S BEST. THE DAM CITY LEADERS, YEARS AGO, SAID THE CITY WAS GETTING OUT OF THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS........ANOTHER LIE AMONG MANY OVER THE YEARS. "We don’t want to sink money into a building that’s not ours. That’s not fiscally responsible,” said Art Central Foundation president Sue Wittman" "THAT"S NOT OURS (OR, IN THE CITY'S CASE, HAS NO PLANS FOR USAGE). "THAT'S NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE".....HEAR THAT MULLIGAN? MS. WITTMAN SHOULD BE CONDUCTING THE PURCHASING/SELLING, NOT COUNCIL. SHE HAS SOME COMMON SENSE. The city spent $297,000 to maintain the buildings in 2011. Those payments included $172,330 in utilities and $74,800 for maintenance, which included one-time mothballing costs for the Manchester Inn and First National Bank properties. The city also collected $173,200 in rent revenues from tenants in the former Bank One, First National Bank and Masonic Temple buildings. SO, NOT ONLY DID THE TAXPAYER ABSORB THE PURCHASE COST, BUT MORE MONEY WAS WASTED ON UTILITIES AND UPKEEP AND NONE OF THE PURCHASES ARE COMING CLOSE TO MAKING ANY MONEY FOR THE CITY. THIS IS NOT A GOOD ROI. "We obviously want to make sure the Cincinnati State deal is inked and they have the buildings that they need before we consider putting buildings on the market or donating buildings,” Gilleland said THIS WHOLE IDEA OF THE CITY PURCHASING PROPERTY, TAKING A BATH ON UTILITY/UPKEEP COSTS WHILE THEY WAIT, SOMETIMES IN VAIN FOR A BUYER, IS A MONEY LOSER AND STUPIDITY AT IT'S FINEST. TO HANG ONTO A BUILDING FOR YEARS, THEN DONATE IT BECAUSE IT HAD NO VALUE/NO TAKERS IN THE FIRST PLACE IS A MISUSE OF TAXPAYER MONEY. PRIVATE PARTIES WHO WOULD TAKE THE DONATED BUILDING HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE TAXPAYER WHO'S MONEY PURCHASED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. LET PRIVATE BUSINESS PURCHASE THEIR OWN PROPERTIES, NOT STEAL IT FROM THE PUBLIC. The former CG&E building is one of five city-owned properties in downtown that were former privately owned buildings. And once all contracts are signed in the Cincinnati State deal, City Manager Judy Gilleland said phase two of shaping downtown will begin — selling off the remaining city-owned buildings that were purchased in anticipation of Cincinnati State’s downtown campus "SELLING OFF THE REMAINING CITY-OWNED BUILDINGS THAT WERE PURCHASED IN ANTICIPATION OF CS'S DOWNTOWN CAMPUS" GILLELAND, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THERE WILL BE BUYERS? WITH THE PROPERTY TRACK RECORD OF DOWNTOWN, I WOULDN'T GET MY HOPES UP. ANOTHER "SHOT IN THE DARK" GAMBLE BY THE CITY LEADERS. IN THE END, EXACTLY HOW DID THE CITY BENEFIT FROM ALL OF THESE BUILDING PURCHASES AND MONEY-LOSING VENTURES? SHOW ME WHERE THIS WAS JUSTIFIED. MERCY! |
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 at 4:50pm |
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I don't know why our city isn't doing what they are doing in OTR. Have someone adopt (buy the building for cheap) and agree to have it up to code and fixed up in a certain amount of time. It would be better than the city buying the buildings and hanging on to them. In tne end, the would still get the same outcome (restored buildings) without using taxpayer money to do so. It would bring a lot more of the right ppl into Middletown as well who actually care and not more section 8 garbage.
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 at 8:21pm |
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At least with the Arts Central Foundation in the Masonic Temple, they are paying utilities and saving the costs to mothball.
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Vivian Moon
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Posted: Feb 28 2012 at 4:44pm |
While Middletown has invested millions of dollars on the Cincy State deal for a hand full of jobs and is now getting ready to invested even more money into the arts community here in Middletown without any thought of ROI, it seems just up the road Mason “IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS”.
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Posted: Feb 28 2012 at 5:17pm |
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Vivian, I doubt Middletown could even get a seat at the table with a company like that. Our ED person, city admin, and council are playing Monopoly while other communities know how to conduct real, not pretend, business.
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Posted: Feb 28 2012 at 10:24pm |
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After just watching, I assume what was the last council meeting on Middletown TV. The woman that spoke of the new apartment building stated "there is nothing in Middltown, that is why I left." This city is caught in the past and will not recover as long we have leaders that are only interested in the past instead of moving into the future.
It is year after year of the same old story on city council, failed plan for downtown after failed plan for downtown. What does it take to get the leaders to understand that the I75 juntcion is where the future is? Every other city along I75 for 50 miles in either direction seems to understand that. I went shopping with my wife and son in Sharonville last weekend and it was absolutely amazing that the little mall we went into was jammed as soon as it opened. We had to wait 10-15 minutes just to check out of the store and it wasn't even a grocery store. Middletown can only dream of such success. The have a mall in an ideal location close to I75 and can get no action out of it. Yet the worry about the buildings down on central. Why would young executives want to drive to downtown Middletown when they could have their pick of offices along I75. I just DO NOT get it. I wish somebody would explain this to me. Pacman |
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Posted: Feb 28 2012 at 11:27pm |
Pacman, It is pretty easy to explain. Our city keeps electing council members who
put their personal agendas, and those of their friends and political backers,
ahead of what is best for our city. Example??? With all of the problems and issues facing our city, what was the very first initiative put forth by our newest councilwoman??? Did it deal with any of the thorny issues or pressing problems facing our city??? NO!!! It was to deviate from longstanding city policy by renaming Bicentennial Commons after one of her friends and campaign supporters!!! |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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VietVet
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Posted: Feb 29 2012 at 6:46am |
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Apparently, there are no buddies to appease for the city out by I-75 or concentration would have ramped up in that location.
We have come to the conclusion, on this site, that one of the main reasons for the emphasis in investment and activity in the downtown area is to protect the neighborhood home values in the S. Main St. historic district. By coincidence, the mayor, Kohler and other high rollers live in that neighborhood and one could deduct that the emphasis, money investment, building purchases and attempted improvement of that area with the PAC, Cincinnati State and I'm sure more to follow, that they won't stop until they are satisfied that they have milked the situation to it's maximum potential and the values in Mulliganville have been maintained. I agree Mike. As I indicated in my post, I thought that Mort's offering has no substance when tied to what this council really needs to address. I doubt that we will see any real contributions from Mort during her tenure on council. She will occupy the chair, make token comments and have harmless ideas that will mean nothing. Nice and safe. All in the family. She's not there to get anything done, just to offer another vote for the MMF agenda. To suggest a name dedication to a site seldom used for events, is trite and meaningless when the subject of town priorities is discussed. Mort is performing just as we said she would before the election. She is demonstrating the traits of the obedient MMF servant. The MMF doctrine apparently requires the elected candidate, sponsored by MMF money and networks, to obey all marching orders by introducing legislation on their behalf, maneuver money around from fund to fund in a manner that is so confusing, it is not traceable, speak only about the "good things" that this city government has done for the people, ignore the majority and cater to the select minority, vote along MMF instructed lines to initiate and carry through with MMF projects, loan money to MMF at their request and basically be the good little servant for the people who got you elected. No independent thinking tolerated here. No self respect, morals nor scruples required, just play team ball, sell out and be what they want you to be. They will provide the removal of all mirrors in the house as looking at yourself in the mirror and seeing an honorable person is not a requirement for being a good little MMF'er. Sadly, it would appear, by their lack of attempting to "push back", that Laubach and Scott-Jones have joined the enemy camp. Or, they have given up trying to fight the enemies of the people. Or, Mulligan has told them in private to stop questioning the program. There just seems to be an atmosphere on council of going along with anything and everything with no debate, no tough questions asked, no resistance. Just seems too smooth to be above board. No hope now. Maybe never was. |
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Posted: Feb 29 2012 at 5:39pm |
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Posted: Mar 02 2012 at 5:34am |
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At the last council meeting the Art Central Foundation requested the |
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Posted: Mar 08 2012 at 6:57am |
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The downtown area will be the second coming. It will be the greatest thing you will witness and experience.
Journal article....March 8th...... Cities focus on downtown revivals Hamilton, Middletown see projects as catalyst for more activities Major pending developments in the downtowns of Butler County’s two largest cities could help spark what the communities need to bring their cores back to life, business leaders said. in Middletown for a community college branch campus could be catalysts of more development and activity. Next month in Middletown, construction could start on Cincinnati State Technical and Community College’s branch campus......COULD START The results could mean more jobs and amenities for residents
Middletown business leader Jay Moorman said his city has reached a tipping point with the opening of Pendleton Art Center and the Cincinnati State plans......THE TIPPING POINT
Middletown’s plans center around education, entertainment and the arts, said City Manager Judy Gilleland. YEP, JUST WHAT EVERY BLUE-COLLAR WORKING-CLASS TOWN NEEDS. THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS TOWN WILL CERTAINLY LATCH ON TO THIS JUDITH.
AK Steel’s headquarters and paper mill companies used to be blocks away from downtown Middletown. Most recently in 2011, Fifth Third Bank closed its downtown Hamilton branch and Butler County shuttered its downtown Middletown Family & Children Services location. SHOULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED THIS IN THE STORY. IT IS NOT "GOOD NEWS" AND CITY LEADERS DON'T WANT TO HEAR OR READ ABOUT REALITY. NOR DO THEY WANT TO SOLVE REALITIES PROBLEMS. “It’s going to happen whether we like it or not. The explosion in Middletown. You’ve got one exit up from Middletown, you’ve got developments, you’ve got big swath of shopping malls, you got residential properties. One exit down, same thing. Middletown’s kind of that last little stop on I-75 for things to really explode and developers are starting to see that and they’re starting to see the fact that properties are very inexpensive right now in Middletown. We need to be prepared for that,” Kay said. A PERVERBIAL EXPLOSION....THE EIGHTH WONDER OF THE WORLD....WATCH OUT! NICE EMBELLISHMENT BY THE WAY.
City Manager Judy Gilleland said she thinks there’s a future for the city in having an educational environment downtown. THAT'S IT? THAT'S YOUR PLAN? THE FUTURE OF THE CITY IS IN EDUCATION? NOT DECENT PAYING JOBS? NOT AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS CAVING IN NOR ROADS THAT ARE GETTING DOWN TO GRAVEL? NOT ELIMINATING SECTION 8 AND THE CRIME AND IMPOVERISHED AREAS IT HAS BROUGHT TO TOWN? NOT HELPING THE SCHOOLS IMPROVE TO THE POINT THEY ARE ATTRACTIVE TO OUTSIDERS AGAIN? NOT HELPING EXISTING BUSINESSES PROSPER AND NEW BUSINESSES START UP? NOT REDUCING THE TAX RATE TO A MANAGEABLE LEVEL FOR PEOPLE? NOT ELIMINATING THE IGNORANT MONEY-LOSING, HAIR-BRAINED CLUSTERS USING TAXPAYER MONEY? NOT GETTING OUT OF THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS? “We’ve certainly been down in the trenches for a few years now. I would like to think we’re able to poke our heads up and see a few successes at this point. There’s nothing easy about working against the economy, so we certainly have our work cut out for us in the future,” Gilleland said "POKE OUR HEADS UP AND SEE A FEW SUCCESSES AT THIS POINT" GOOD ONE JUDITH!
Jay Moorman owns BeauVerre Riordan Stained Glass Studios. The oldest continually operating stained glass studio in the U.S., it has been a staple on Central Avenue going on nine years. For six of those years, it was alone, Moorman said. “It was a scary time,” he said. He was part of a group that looked to form a Main Street organization and first approached Pendleton about opening the art center, now caddy-corner from BeauVerre. News of Cincinnati State and the opening of Pendleton was a tipping point, Moorman said. He said he never thought five years ago, things would be where they are now GETTING THAT LOAN FROM THE CITY THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN PAID BACK (OR HAS IT?) WAS A "TIPPING POINT" TOO, WASN'T IT MOORMAN? “People want to get involved in downtown and care,” he said. “I couldn’t be more encouraged.” UH, THAT MAY BE A TINGE OF AN EXAGGERATION BUD. IN REALITY, ONLY A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM THE CITY WANT TO GET INVOLVED DOWNTOWN. YOUR ARTS THEME WON'T ATTRACT THE BULK OF THE CITIZENRY. IT IS BEING SET UP WITH THE ARTS THEME FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FRIENDS OF THE CITY AND NOT THE GENERAL POPULACE. THE FLAVOR OF THE BULK OF PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN IS NOT IN THE ARTS. IT'S IN NASCAR, COUNTRY MUSIC, LOW END SHOPPING AND ENTERTAINMENT. IT'S THE LIFESTYLE MIDDLETOWN PEOPLE CAN AFFORD SINCE THE CITY HASN'T PURSUED DECENT PAYING JOBS HERE TO ELEVATE THE ECONOMIC STATUS OF IT'S PEOPLE. YOU DON'T GIVE THE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE DISPOSABLE INCOME, BUT YOU SET THE DOWNTOWN AREA UP WITH AN ARTS THEME THAT CAN ONLY BE SUPPORTED BY DISPOSABLE INCOME. WON'T WORK IN THIS TOWN. PEOPLE HAVE NO EXTRA MONEY TO SUPPORT IT. JMO |
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