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Bobbie
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 05 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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Posted: Jun 25 2009 at 10:14am |
Mike that is the problem it requires good ole common sense.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Vet:
The sad thing is, all of the things in my suggested plan are either already matters of law, or plain ol' good common sense!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Would love to see the reaction on the faces of the city manager and department heads within the city building upon implementation of these ideas, suggested by Mr. Kidd and Mike. Would destroy everything Gilleland is trying to build for herself.(Oh- send her packing too) Would like to see how many resignations are submitted when they saw the writing on the wall. The shock would be too great for some. Need to have similar thinking as it applies to the school board also as to mandates and a total change in the mode of operation. Now- let's get started with the ousting of the current members of Council (keep none) and School Board (keep Sauter)
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Looks like to me the city did just the opposite of the above plan.
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No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Spider: I also agree with Mr. Kidd.
By the way, Spider, perhaps you remember a couple of years ago on The Journal's City Council message board when someone chastised several of us for criticizing city council for seeming to "not have a plan". Whoever it was insisted that none of us "could come up with a better plan."
That evening I posted a response, and I have re-posted it once since then. It ties in nicely with Mr. Kidd's post above, so I think I will post it again.
Here it is:
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While I am sure that I, and several of the others that have posted here, either alone or in concert, could come up with a viable plan in just a few days, such a plan would be much too long to post here.
Conceiving the plan Is not the problem. The problem is to convince anyone at City Hall that any mere ordinary citizen, outside the inner circle, can possibly have anything valuable to say. All that aside, here is a brief outline, with no detail of course, of the plan: 1. Immediately reprioritize the city budget, recognizing that the first purposes of city government are public safety and infrastructure. 2. Immediately eliminate all charitable, cultural, entertainment, amusement, and similar items from the budget. 3. Immediately resume having city Council work session in public, as well as conducting all other public business in public. 4. Immediately remove all council members, relatives of council members, or any other persons having possible conflicts of interest from all public boards and commissions, and from the boards of directors of any organizations receiving tax money from the city of Middletown. 5. Immediately begin making Middletown truly business friendly. Revise all building codes that unnecessarily add to a potential business’s costs, such as unnecessary dormers, unneeded wall breaks, and similar architectural features. 6. Immediately issue a policy paper to all city department heads, instructing them to distribute it, and explain to all employees that there will no longer be any unwarranted impediments to business development. Further instruct them to explain to all employees that there is no such thing, for example, as the “right” architect. The “right” architect, is any architect licensed to practice in the state of Ohio, or licensed in any state with reciprocity agreements with the state of Ohio, and that any employee found violating these directives will be summarily discharged. 7. Immediately issue a policy paper to all city employees involved in engineering, planning, zoning, and other business development-related fields instructing them that personal preferences will no longer be tolerated while conducting city business. Include in this policy paper instructions that no city employee’s tastes shall be imposed upon, or even suggested to, any potential business enterprise, and to purge all local codes and ordinances of personal preferences. Include a warning that any violation of this policy will result in immediate summary discharge. 8. Immediately abolish all city codes or ordinances banning, or even discouraging, signs visible from I-75, or from the surface streets in the areas surrounding Interstate highways or interchanges, when such signs advertise goods, products, businesses or services available in the City of Middletown. 9. Immediately and in writing, explain to the City Law Director that his first duty is to the citizens of Middletown, and that this duty supersedes any directives from city council. 10. Empanel truly independent charter review committee, with the purpose of proposing changes to the city charter that: A) Mandate that Middletown’s city government return to the true purposes of a municipal government; B) Emphasize the division of powers within the city; C) Ease the procedure for recalling elected officials, and the implementation of the immediate discharge of non-elected officials, who violate city ordinances, charter provisions, or State of Ohio General Law; and D) incorporates the Ohio Attorney General’s “seven tests for compatibility of offices” into the Charter. As you can see, this is getting too long for this venue already, but perhaps you get the idea.
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I believe that the original debate that resulted in my composing this plan was early 2006. I am fairly cetain it was BEFORE The Journal changed their message boards in June of 2007.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Impala SS
MUSA Resident Joined: Jan 12 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Nick > Talking about sign ordinances, I thought there was to be no more big yellow signs. If this is true, then why is there a big yellow sign at Armbrusters flower shop? Is it ok because he is a council member?
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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BEAUTIFUL THINKING mR.kIDD
KEEP IT COMING!
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Nick_Kidd
MUSA Resident Joined: May 15 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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Having an Economic Development department is just a waste of money until city council and our school board make some positive changes.The first year Bill Murphy was first brought in, him and his office, phone, vehicle, etc. cost us about $162,000. At the 1 1/2% income tax at that time, it took the income tax on over $10,000,000 of payroll just pay for him and his office. While he was here we lost AK Steel HQ. The cost is much higher today, but no more successful.
The following changes must be made before Middletown can start to move forward:
1. Our school system must educate our children. Failed schools are the number one reason for the decline of cities. Meeting less than 17% of the indicators on proficiency test is totally unexeptable.
2. The city must repair our infrastructure, starting with our streets and separating the sewers downtown. They get the money for these every year. It is now time to stop misappropriating these funds to pay for the city payroll. I believe that if we got rid of the crooks, criminals, thieves, incompetents and unneeded from the city building, we could not only start spending money where it should be spent, it would start repairing our reputation and our image.
3. We must elect people that will help Middletown instead of making us the #1 fastest dying city in the country (with a population under 100,000). A few changes that should be made immediately:
A. The ordinance that keeps the city from repairing streets without putting in new curbs and gutters should be reversed. This is another way to get their hands on your money, but also keeps them from repairing streets that need repair (Lefferson road).
B. Zoning should be reversed in the downtown area. Of the 88 block area formerly known as downtown, only two streets (Central and Verity) are now zoned for business. If someone wants to bring a business downtown, zoning should not stand in their way. The city may respond that you could get a zoning variance, but anybody that has to deal with our city personnel, is on their way out of town.
3. All ordinances that keep businesses from locating here should be removed. Unreasonable sign ordinances, having to have a building permit even if no changes to the building are made, having approval of the planning department, etc., etc. The more red tape and the worse our image, the less likely any business will come here.
There are many more positive changes that should be made, but these would a least be a start on the recovery of Middletown. People say Middletown will never be what it once was, but I believe that Middletown can be better than it ever was. But it will take real leadership and a new attitude in the city building to make any improvment. Doing the same old things that made us #1 on the Forbes list will not help us move forward.
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Government is not the answer to problems, government is the problem.
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Agreed Irisner, you must improve the schools, reduce Section 8, Reduce Poverty, at least get started on repairing the Infrastructure, take a serious look at your older strip centers and try to get them up to current standards, bring in or at least maintain some amenities that people are looking for in a place to live. Currently Middletown is failing in all of these areas, despite the constant, "MIDDLETOWN HAS A BRIGHT FUTURE" moniker that we constantly hear. Middletown must also take a honest look and assessment of what it can feasibly do downtown and turning it into a lively economic center is most likely not in the cards.
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lrisner
MUSA Citizen Joined: May 26 2009 Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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A City in such a State of Decline as Middletown, simply can not afford an Economic Development Department in my opinion.
How in the World can one justify spending $$$ on "wooing" Businesses here when the Roads (just one of our issues!) are so bad? I heard Tony M. state that the PAC deal was a "Home Run". Well all the City assets put into that Deal makes it much less than a Home Run in my eyes. Let's accept that Middletown will not come back to it's Glory Days and try and salvage it so as not to make People like ME leave and take their taxable Income with them! |
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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If used effectively Vivian it should be doing this, but the key here is "if it is used effectively":
"Economic development refers to increases in the standard of living of a City's population associated with sustained growth from a simple, low-income economy to a modern, high-income economy. Its scope includes the process and policies by which a City improves the economic, political, and social well-being of its people. Economic development may also refer to the field comprising policies and efforts that seek to improve the economic well-being and quality of life for a community or region by creating and/or retaining jobs and supporting or growing incomes and the tax base."
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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PLEASE!....tell me why we even have an Economic Developement Department? |
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Guess that tells you where Economic Development ranks in this City. Out of Site, Out of Mind.
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MerrellWood
MUSA Immigrant Joined: May 14 2009 Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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Smokey
I must assume you have a particular viewpoint in the inside of city hall. Are you a recent employee? I've got my own story's with the manager I will sometime put into words.
However, Does anyone have any solid info about any particular arts organization that is
starving for support from city hall or has recently lost it's support. I don't necessarly mean
financial
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Smokey Burgess
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 172 |
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Merrell -
The almighty Queen of Middletown does what she does because nobody dare voice opposition to her! How well do I know a little something about her insistence on blind loyalty!
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MerrellWood
MUSA Immigrant Joined: May 14 2009 Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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Vietvet, I serve on the Middfest board and the manager walked in last week and told Viriginia Ritan and he staff that she expected them to be out of three offices they use by this coming Monday. She want's to move the new economic development folks to the fourth floor from their location right down the hall from her on the 2nd. She is unwilling to discuss waiting until Midfest comes and goes in 90 days. Why?
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Smokey Burgess
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 172 |
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Thanks again Pacman. Your suggestions are always good ones. I will consult my counsel about this. And, thank you also Impala SS. Forbes would probably love to learn more about the HUD funny business right here in River City.
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Smokey Burgess
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 172 |
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WHERE"S THE BEEF CITY OF MIDDLETOWN??
Once annually HUD Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) and Home Investment Partnerships (HOME) Programs funding recipients such as the City of Middletown are required to submit a so-called Consolidated Annual Performance and Evaluation Report (CAPER). In our case, the HUD Columbus Field Office is to receive this report covering the period running from May 1, 2008 through April 30, 2009.
Now that senior City staff with the approval of City Council has abolished the HUD Consolidated Planning Committee, who from the general public has a real opportunity to examine the expenditures and productivity during this most recent program year?? Inquiring minds want to know??
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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We need an audit of labor costs and the organizational structure evolution over the past 20 years. Then compare that with income per year.
There should be a relationship between total income and total labor costs. |
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Bobbie
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 05 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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One other piece of information that would be nice to have is what departments have had the increase in positions. I know several people that work for the city and they have told me that their departments have positions that have not been filled. Are their positions being created in departments while other areas that are running short have vacancies. This creates overtime which would not be a needed expence.
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Smokey Burgess
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 172 |
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The elitist Middletown bureaucrats are delaying the inevitable by spending Section 8, miscellaneous HUD programs (CDBG, HOME and NSP), and other Federal stimulus monies to defer layoffs!! What is to happen when the American taxpayers turn off the tap to these FUNNY MONEY programs?? And, what if other City funds are being siphoned off to fund aministrative purposes as has been reported here by others???
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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If the figures are true, this is an outrage. Employee costs should be reduced in line with overall income reductions.We know the city is making much less than 2 years ago.
I will reserve my outrage until I have a better handle on the actual figures. |
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Bobbie
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 05 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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I saw on the news today that the city of Hamilton is laying off individuals today. I never wish anyone out of a job. Does not make any sense that their should have been an increase in the last 2 1/2 years.
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tomahawk35
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 18 2008 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 223 |
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More like a polite kiss-off |
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