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Bocephus
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Topic: Eleven area bars cited for gamblingPosted: 28 Jan 2010 at 12:17am |
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Eleven area bars cited for gamblingBy Ryan Gauthier, Staff Writer 10:20 PM Wednesday, January 27, 2010 MIDDLETOWN — At least 11 Middletown bars were cited Wednesday, Jan. 27, as part of a crackdown on illegal gambling machines. The state received a complaint several bars in the area were housing illegal gambling machines, said spokeswoman Julie Hinds. It is a violation of their liquor permits to have gambling machines that pay money to customers on the premises, according to Hinds. Police from Middletown, Monroe and the Butler County Sheriff’s Office entered 11 bars at 11 a.m. Wednesday, seizing gambling machines, bank records and undisclosed amounts of money. An additional sweep of Middletown bars took place later in the afternoon, but Hinds would not say how many were involved. The majority of charges filed were administrative violations and will go before the Ohio Liquor Control Commission, while any pending criminal charges will be filed in the Middletown Municipal Court, she said. “In a few places officers also observed some alcohol violations, so they were able to write them up for those as well,” Hinds said. Jimmy Valentine, owner of the Lakeside Inn on Tytus Avenue, said he does not know why police hauled off his two electronic gambling machines. “I wasn’t making any money personally off of those machines,” Valentine said. “As bad as business is in Middletown you think they’d just let people go and do what they can do to make a buck.” Also involved in the first wave of citations Wednesday, according to Hinds, were: Bill’s Open Door Cafe, 2715 Burbank Ave.; Lefferson Inn, 2908 Lefferson Road; Bucks Sports Bar and Grille, 1300 Central Ave.; Buster’s, 1819 Casper Ave.; Ye Olde Dutch Tavern, 2716 N. Verity Parkway; Third Base Cafe, 911 Crawford St.; Jenny B’s Hillbilly Heaven, 2502 Atco Ave.; Mutts Main Bar, 2703 South Main St.; Madison Inn, 101 Front St.; and The Blue Goose, 3008 Tytus Ave.
Contact this reporter at (513) 705-2871 or rgauthier@coxohio.com. Gotta love the guy from the lakeside Inns remarks "Umm because its illegal" Geez |
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 6:37am |
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Henious crimes! Shut 'em down! Confiscate the machines! Close those businesses (the few that are left) and get rid of all the vice in our little utopia!
I don't get it. We allow the Girls Gone Wild Tour Bus to come to town (no doubt an image enhancer) We allow all the poverty (54%) we can handle and then some. We ramp up the Section 8 and HUD programs to the point of over-saturation. The police ignore the druggies in Mayfield around the Burbank St area and the always well drug-trafficked Minnesota/Douglas Park area. We turn our back on the few businesses that inquire about starting in this town. Then, for good measure, we raid existing businesses and confiscate a revenue generator (albeit not much) for them, while the city leaders create a city environment that is low class enough that gambling fits right in and should be welcomed. Why are all of these "low-class" activities allowed to exist, yet gambling is a no-no? Take the friggin' cops, put 'em down in Mayfield, downtown and over by Douglas- clean up the druggies- THEN start worrying about this other less serious stuff. Leave the business people alone, for cryin' out loud!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 7:46am |
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Ok, couple of points here, the first being the fact that the Journal stops any reader comments from stories that people would like to comment on. I love that paper, they do such a bang up job reporting.
As far as Gambling at these bars, SO WHAT!! If people want to sit in a bar and spend quarters on some machine that will never pay you more than a couple of bucks, who is that hurting. I would love to know who complained to the state, someone that lost a few bucks in one of those machines. I agree vet there are bigger issues the cops should be worrying about.
How about any one of these:
All from the beloved Journal
Jan. 24 A 29-year-old man was Tased by police after allegedly fleeing from an officer attempting to arrest him on an active warrant. Police made contact with Frank McClain in the 4300 block of Roosevelt Boulevard, but said he tried to run away from them following a brief distraction. McClain reportedly took off running from officers, but not before throwing his coat down at the front door of a nearby Speedway gas station. Following a short foot pursuit, officers deployed a Taser and were able to subdue McClain. A search of his pants and jacket, officers located 3.71 grams of marijuana and 7.55 grams of what they believe to be crack cocaine. McClain was arrested for obstructing official business, two counts of drug abuse and an active bench warrant. A North Carolina man told police he was robbed by an unknown subject near Old Smith Park. The 37-year-old said he was walking northbound on Main Street when a man approximately 5’10” tall came up behind him and hit him in the back of the head. The assailant then allegedly assaulted him and demanded he give him all of his money, consisting of $100 in cash. The man said he went back to his daughter’s house, where he cleaned his wounds. Officers noted some injuries to the man’s face, but said he did not require any medical treatment. Middletown police are looking into an alleged domestic violence case in which two passengers reportedly leapt from a moving vehicle to escape an abusive man. The female car owner said a 29-year-old Hamilton man had been driving her vehicle when he grabbed her by the hair, held her down in her seat and began driving at a high rate of speed. A woman riding in the back of the car told police she jumped from the window of the vehicle when he slowed down enough. The owner remained in the vehicle until it reached the intersection of 14th and Minnesota avenues, police report. She then reportedly jumped out of the car and began screaming for help. The two women filed charges of domestic violence and unauthorized use of a motor vehicle against Jeff Knight, of the 500 block of Front Street. Police report they have yet to arrest Knight. Instead of looking for this guy Jeff Knight, who is beating up woman as he drives down the road, lets go to some local bars and and remove these machines that bring business to those bars. Yeah makes since to me.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 8:08am |
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Come on, you guys!!! Surely you realize that GAMBLING is ILLEGAL in this state!!!
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Hermes
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 10:13am |
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My favorite parts about this article :
1. The state recieved a complaint = someone lose all their quarters & like an upset child called the state ?
2. The police barge in and confiscate an undisclosed amount of money ?!! Every since 9/11 "undisclosed" is a favorite term to be used by those in control.
3. An additional sweep later that afternoon ? What did they do go back to the same bars for more money ?
4. The police observed alcohol violations and wrote them up as well ? Did someone forget to tell the Gestapo that the warrants were for gambling machines only ?!!! Or did they even have warrants ?
Thank you Marianne for the spelling correction
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 10:41am |
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gustapo... I like that. I learn something new everyday:
1. gustapo A creepy librarian type who live in a library. At midnight their third eye opens up and they are the protector of the books. They are also known to form nests that of like a spider in abandon stairways. Better get out of the library before gustapo sucks you in with her third eye. Didn't know creepy librarians were involved! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gustapo |
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 10:55am |
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These bars are struggling for survival. These machines are a draw to some patrons , and not a huge money-maker for anyone. Do you realize that a pinball machine(because it has the CAPABILITY of giving free games) is not permitted in the city? Leave the businesses alone at this time, and concentrate on violent crime and repeat offenders. Have the courts put meaning back in a court date and sentencing(outside of suspending fines/jail time and only implementing court costs). Deal with REAL PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY.
No sense in these types of crack-downs in today's economy. If this is all these state employees have to do, then maybe they need to feel the layoff sting also.
Time to throw the state employees into the same health care/social security retirement system as everyone else. Then maybe govt. will understand the plight of the independant working person.
OK Marianne--the word used should have been GEstapo.
Did your grammar correction make you feel superior?
Any comments on the raid situation?
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Marianne
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 11:51am |
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I actually prefer the original word you used. Creepy librarians enforcing the law is much more amusing. |
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 2:43pm |
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When you point out where I've corrected someone's grammar, I'll answer your question. |
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 9:17pm |
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Bars struggling to survive.....hmmmmmmmmm.
"More than $1.2 million netted in gambling stingBy Ryan Gauthier, Staff Writer
8:57 PM Thursday, January 28, 2010
MIDDLETOWN— Approximately $1.2 million was reportedly seized from a popular Middletown bar during a search for illegal gambling machines on Wednesday, Jan. 27. Julie Hinds, spokeswoman with the Ohio Investigative Unit, said law enforcement officials were “surprised” to find such a substantial amount of money inside of Bill’s Open Door Cafe, located at 2715 Burbank Ave. “We honestly were not expecting to find that much money,” Hinds said." |
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 12:09am |
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Wow whod have thunk it ? Thats a lot of cash to leave in your bar I think.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 1:28am |
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Note that the $1.2 million was all in ONE bar! The other establishments averaged about $2K each.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 7:33am |
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stimulus $$$?
HUD?
CDBG?
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randy
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 7:39am |
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I cant get over that amount of money being found at Bill's. My God bury it in the back yard or something. Dont just leave it laying around.
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Mike_Presta
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 8:12am |
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Randy,
I have been told by usually very reliable sources that it wasn't "just laying around"!
Also, these same reliable sources tell me it is not as some of you think. They say that these machines are not "just for a few quarters" but are for 50 cents (minimum) to as much as $4 per spin. (And some newer machines may be even higher.) The "jackpots" can be as high as $4,000.00!!!
That is what I have been told...I couldn't swear to it in court.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 9:16am |
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People need to worry about themselves, and quit intruding in other peoples personal decisions. Whether you want to gamble, smoke, or....... carve "X's" in your flesh with a butter knife, your an adult, you should have the right to do as you please as long as you don't infringe on others rights/freedom.
It's against the law to handle snakes and buy raw milk. What the hell is going on??? MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS |
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Hermes
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 11:14am |
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They found 1.2 million,how much of that does Middeltown get ?
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 11:33am |
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Answer from Middletown: What 1.2 million, we didn't find 1.2 million $ any where!! That must be a mis quote from that pesky Journal
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 12:05pm |
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Large amount of money found in a bar on Burbank St. in Mayfield. Mayfield residents acknowledge there is drug dealers and drug activity on an on-going basis at an intersection involving Burbank and a cross street and have requested numerous times that police patrol the area to inhibit this activity. Coincidence?????
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Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 4:14am |
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Vet,
I doubt that the proprietor was involved in drug trafficking. My guess is that the $1.2 million was from years of unreported income: Profits from the machines, check cashing fees, etc., all of the things that are tough for the IRS to track, and all cash transactions. As usually happens when a big wad of cash is discovered, the IRS will soon be in town wanting to know where it came from and ready to confiscate it. Mr. Bill better get ready for audits as far back as the IRS can reach.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 4:44am |
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Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Nooooooooooo!!
I take it the "MR. BILL" you're alluding to isn't the claymation Gumby figure of former Saturday Night Live television fame??
Surely you must be refrerring to a Middletonian that we know??
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Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 9:19am |
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Thank you, Mike.
You remain the "unparalelled source of information" for us who post on MiddletownUSA.
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Mike Wieser. I think he has owned it for right at 30 yrs now. He is a decent guy who loves his Cash a little too much and Mr Presta is probably right, the money is "hopefully" skimed for purposes of Tax evasion over many Years. I say hopefully because I would be disappointed if he was into something very distasteful. I have heard Rumors but won't repeat them and will hope they are untrue. |
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30 years??? Has it been that long??? I used to stop there occasionally while Project 600 was under construction and start-up (about 1966 through '70), and he did not own it then. He has owned it since I've been back in town (mid-1998).
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Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 11:14am |
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Nice guy--nice local business--good food
illegal to have a lot of cash?
Is this amount actual?
very popular local spot
What would Mayfield do without this place?
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Spider:
Nice guy??? Matter of opinion. Nice local business??? Fills a need, seems to do well. Good food??? I do agree here!!! Also the only place left in town where one can get frog legs!!! (Although I haven't seen the menu for quite a while.)
Depends!! Generally speaking, no, not illegal. But it is illegal if it is part of a gambling operation, drug operation, or proceeds of undeclared income. (This is just IMHO. I am not an attorney, nor am I accusing anyone of any of these things, or other illegal activities.)
$1.2 million is what was reported in The Journal. Take it for what it's worth.
Yes, it is. I have been told that it used to be difficult to get a seat in there on Thrsday, Friday, or Saturday. Not so much anymore. Two of the long-time, regular, popular bartenders are gone.
Clientele would probably patronize the Mayfield Inn (same owner) a block away, or the Lefferson Inn. (Neither of these have food, though.)
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Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 11:24am |
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Gee, Mike, you are also so negative Are you suffering long term constipation or something?.
He has been has been there since the mid 80s for sure. What is that? 25 yrs? Nice guy? I bet I know him much better than you and I think that for the most part that is true. I realize that the Cash is suspect and that is why I said I hoped it was just skim Money and not part some big Criminal activity. I did say that he loved his Money a little too much, but that could be said of a lot of People on here! Chill a little bit. |
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The owner is a good customer of mine, and I also patronize his business.
I don't know him well--but know him well enough.
Considering his clientele, type of business and his area, I think that he runs a good operation.
I hope that he survives this situation as well as possible.
Gambling-booze-sex
People want these things.
The self-righteous big brother will never win this fight, and should spend more of their time policing their own imo.
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Gee, Mr. Irisner:
You wrote:
Gee, Mike, you are also so negative Are you suffering long term constipation or something?.
He has been has been there since the mid 80s for sure. What is that? 25 yrs?
Nice guy? I bet I know him much better than you and I think that for the most part that is true.
I realize that the Cash is suspect and that is why I said I hoped it was just skim Money and not part some big Criminal activity.
I did say that he loved his Money a little too much, but that could be said of a lot of People on here!
Chill a little bit.
Just for the record, for the rest of you, I am NOT anti-gambling, nor anti-drinking, nor any of that. People that actually know me, know that for an actual fact!!! |
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Chill......and Poop!
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Stop being so NEGATIVE and ANTAGONISTIC!!!
I'm going to go out and GAMBLE, then DRINK--but NOT at your pal's place--too bad for him!!!
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If you buy, I will join you.
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Hey, if you two want to get out for a drink I have a bar just waiting for you. I'll even buy your second drink, lol. Look around while you're there and you might want to buy it. Heads up . . . we have flowers all around outside but you'll probably never make even close to 1.2 million.
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Wannaknow,
Maybe another night! Gee, Flowers outside?? I thought that, according to our city leaders, that is all it takes to get business BOOMING!!! Do you think I will be able to find a seat??
I have plans Wednesday evening, and I may run into some of the regular posters from here. If so, I'll offer to visit your establishment and throw forty bucks on the bar and we'll drink until it's gone!!!
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Ahso i believe you have hit a few of those $4,000.00!!! jackpots yourself. At least one that i am aware of. |
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We allow the Girls Gone Wild Tour Bus to come to town (no doubt an image enhancer) We allow all the poverty (54%) we can handle and then some. We ramp up the Section 8 and HUD programs to the point of over-saturation. The police ignore the druggies in Mayfield around the Burbank St area and the always well drug-trafficked Minnesota/Douglas Park area. We turn our back on the few businesses that inquire about starting in this town. Then, for good measure, we raid existing businesses and confiscate a revenue generator (albeit not much) for them, while the city leaders create a city environment that is low class enough that gambling fits right in and should be welcomed. Why are all of these "low-class" activities allowed to exist, yet gambling is a no-no? Take the friggin' cops, put 'em down in Mayfield, downtown and over by Douglas- clean up the druggies- THEN start worrying about this other less serious stuff. Leave the business people alone, for cryin' out loud!