The next big thing!

While the city is making sure certain property is protected or given away, check out what's happening to residential property in Middletown. A 2.3 acre estate, beautiful rustic carriage style home with brick (ranch) with 3800 square ft at a March tax value of $245,000. sold in August for $150,000. Folks you house values are down to about .5 of where they were before AK and the hospital moved out. 3701 Rosedale, 2.3 acres, 3800sq ft- $150,000. Middletown is hardly on the rebound.

If you think your property values are bad now just wait until this time next year.
They have already started adding additional cost to every property owner in Middletown with the increase of water, sewer and lights and this will continue because they know we will not give them another tax increase...and they will really be needng more money in the very near future.
Don’t forget the other bond that we just passed for 1.2 million for the demo of the garage, Swallen’s and the paving of the new parking lot….now we will be adding another 15 million bond for Cincy State.
I thought Middletown wasn’t going into the real estate business again
Oh and we also have the Greentree bond to add to this current running total of debt load.

You MiddletownUSA regulars are pitiful.
All you do is gripe.

Most every City in the country that was reliant on manufacturing is struggling today.  Vivian, Steve (spiderjohn) and company act like the issues in Middletown are unique to Middletown and they aren't.

hold on mtown--while I have been doing more than my share of griping, I am still working long hours at keeping a long-running local business in operation, and still finding time to attend most public forums(without "griping"), serve on countless boards and commitiees, donate/participate in countless public/private/official/un-official efforts around here.

Mtown, you make some good points--in particular Middletown's situation as an old manufacturing town that has declined, not at all unlike other old manufacturing towns--Hamilton, Dayton, Toledo, Cincinnati (to some extent), Detroit, Pittsburgh, Flint, etc.  The list across the U.S. is pretty lengthy.  Do all of these cities have terrible leadership, like Middletown, and that is the sole reason for the decline (I'm laying on the sarcasm pretty heavily here) or is it the case that larger economic forces outside the control of a single city's leadership are at work?  I'd say clearly it is the latter. 

Mtown wrote: Vet This whole recall thing is a perfect example. Spend a lot of time and energy talking about recalling local elected officials for what? The fact that you disagree with them? What makes your opinions more valid that the total city electorate? If you don't like what they are doing run for office against one of them and make your case to the voters. As far as spiderjohn, as I understand it all you do is complain and gripe on the boards/commissions you served/served on. My entire point is many (a majority) of the MiddletownUSA regulars do nothing. Except bitch and complain. Must be miserable being so unhappy that you can't approach life and your community with a more positive approach.

I have way you can change my whole negative opinion about this city,just meet me tomorrow and bring me a cashier check for the value of my home and I will be the happiest son-- bitch that you ever met. If that isn't possible, buy yourself some earplugs.

Yes sir-ree Bob!

For years everyone could see that Middletown was the obvious meeting point of the “Cin-Day” corridor and was touted to be the choicest interchange on I-75. Yet, thanks to the corruption and provincialism of our city hall and puppet masters such as MMF, we are not only the very LAST interchange to see development, but real movers and shakers have actually built NEW interchanges rather than deal with our “business-friendly” group of scoundrels.

And Kohler continues to resist, and Gilleland and Council turn a blind eye.

Build those “enhanced gateways” with Marty’s “water features”, folks. The successful communities will just build more interchanges and continue to prosper while Middletown crumbles!!!

For all of the REAL Middletonians: After the closing, we'll throw a beer and cheeseburger party at a local pub on our way out of town!!! 

Mtown- You state "What makes your opinions more valid that the total city electorate?"- what makes you think the MAJORITY of the city electorate doesn't agree with our points of view on this site? Have you polled them for their opinions? Doubtful


"If you don't like what they are doing run for office against one of them and make your case to the voters."- Ran in the 90's for school board. Was going to examine the school budget and internals and make public. Was the third to declare for three positions open. Next day, your side gathered five more candidates to dilute the impact of the non-club people. Club members filled the seats. In the 90's, Dems used my name on the ballot to run against the incumbant to offer token resistance. 70-30% loss, but didn't leave the house to campaign. I had a real job that didn't allow me to take off and no money. Now, have a wife with a stroke which is another full time job besides my regular job in Dayton. No time to attend forums, campaign, etc. or I would run for council. They wouldn't like me, guaranteed. Have you or VOR run for any office or are you totally satisfied with the crap going on here? Could you be one of the many court jesters downtown dancing for the queen?

You STILL haven't answered the question after asking twice now. For the third time, what would you do to change the town? Present your gameplan to us so that we all can "see the light" and understand the reasoning for the city leader's decisions on many issues we currently disagree on. Convert us VOR and Mtown. Show us where our thinking is flawed. All you have done so far is complain about our complaining. You've shown us nothing to support your positions. Why should we support the way the city is being run? Again, in your court.

Incredible!!!! "Must be miserable being so unhappy that you can't approach life and your community with a more positive approach." - Mercy!!! Not miserable at all. Frustrated perhaps concerning how the city is being run, but not miserable. Approaching life and the community with a more positive approach requires a situation where people are allowed to feel as if they have some control of the destiny of their life and the town. Personally, I feel neither right now. My life is now controlled by my job and the care of my wife with little time for me or anything else and the town is controlled by a group of exclusionary people who have an agenda they would rather keep from the general public. For years, they have not listened to the people nor asked what the people want for their city. They do not want to hear us as evidenced by the citizens comments at council meetings. They could care less for the citizens, hence we regard them as the opposition. How do you keep a "positive" attitude under those conditions?

hey mtown--

correct acclaro

Mike,

I will take it as a compliment that you call me an elitist--you are the first person to anoint me with that title, but there is a first time for everything, I guess.  But I should ask--what is your definition of elitist?  And please give me something better than Merriam-Webster, since I can find out that for myself.  I'd much rather hear how a deep and clear-thinking man such as yourself defines the term.