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Eleven
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Jun 01 2010 Location: Middletown, Oh Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Sorry this has happened to all involved. I can't imagine how traumatizing this would be. Just like the lady who has been robbed twice up at the BP drive thru. A friend of mine had stopped in Dillmans literally around the same time. She said noone else was in the parking lot but imagining these guys maybe hiding outside waiting for the store to be clear Ughhh
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tomahawk35
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 18 2008 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 223 |
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PattiGal
MUSA Resident Joined: Sep 09 2009 Status: Offline Points: 113 |
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Spider....Last month two men walked into the IHOP in West Chester with sawed-off shotguns, terrorized the employees and patrons and robbed the place. No one seems immune right now. Still...I am so sorry. It must be very difficult to get past the trauma...
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"Because nice matters..."
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randy
MUSA Official Joined: Jan 13 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1586 |
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Hey Mtown, if you like I can also post your real name and address, along with your email.
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Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357
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randy
MUSA Official Joined: Jan 13 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1586 |
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This is also Mtown/ Sgt. Friday
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Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Once again Sgt M makes little to know sense which is his/her trademark. Impersonating an Officer can't you go to jail for that, I wanna file a complaint. Hahahahahaha. Of course you have also been trying to impersonate a person who knows something, anything and failed at that. To bad that is not a crime.
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Sgt Joe Friday
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You guys are too easy. Check out the post. It starts with "If you think it will pass, I am in complete disagreement. If you think they will try to raise it, of course they will, and throw in the 200 years it will take to repair the roads and sewer." Talk about throwing you some red meat and look what happens. No wonder spider flips so much. Darn server at Dillman's is acting up.
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Elliot Mess
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Friday:
Don't get me started on you. There are reasons why I never asked you to join my team of untouchables, and you know what they are. We're keeping an ewye on you.
Elliot Mess
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Hahahahaha looks like Sgt. Got busted like old Barney Fife and his one bullet in his pocket. Good job Randy. Sgt. the only way you would have done Dillman any good was if a cop car was on break in the parking lot eating donuts.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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OK Sarge- the economy is in the toilet. We all know that crime in the form of bank and business robberies escalate during poor economic times. People who are unemployed are desperate for money. Ain't rocket science here. They gotta find money to buy their Christmas presents and get high around this time of year. The kids will have presents around the tree no matter what and that takes money from wherever they get it.
According to your post, you are suggesting the city is doing alright in it's money ventures and that they are investing money into downtown and bringing in businesses.(All gov/bailout money coupled with some ill-spent city taxpayer money) Is that why they have relied solely on fed money bailout programs like HUD and Section 8 for operating revenue? You know as well as I, there are no real, decent paying jobs left in this town except for AK and I have heard the big union wages are starting to erode there also in favor of jobs being contracted out. Saves AK a bunch in wages per hour and they don't have to pay benefits packages for these people either. Big cost savings for AK if they can weed out, over time, the union salary and benefits legacies they are paying. Same thing should happen to a city who can't handle it's money and have inept people in the driver's seat. Since 75% of the city's budget is in salary/benefits for public employees, and Laubach has shown that the city won't be able to handle much more in union demands in the future, the logical place to cut is in this area. I hope Verdin (and Cincy State) do read this. Maybe he (they) will get the message that this town can't afford to give him hundreds of thousands of dollars for his arts center that has yet to show anything and is a crapshoot at best. Cincy State was literally given (bought on a wing and a prayer) some buildings for their operation with no input from the very citizens who's money could potentially be wasted by this incompetent city leadership. Both the arts center and the college has the potential to never materialize and the people will have paid dearly to own some white elephants that may never be occupied. Disgusting. Public safety is important- true, but it must be within reason as to the budget of the city....ie.... it must be AFFORDABLE. You fail to grasp that concept so far. Don't blame us citizens for not wanting to bankrupt the city because of union demands, blame the city leaders for devising a budget and failing to get adequate revenue generators in town to afford you any longer. THEY are the ones responsible to the people, to see that the public service has been met. THEY are the ones who are failing you and "we, the people". JMO |
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randy
MUSA Official Joined: Jan 13 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1586 |
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Hey Friday are you a cop or a business owner , I am just wondering. I mean seeing how you and Mtown are the same person on here. (IP address dont lie )
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Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357
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Sgt Joe Friday
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I bet all you MiddletownUSA people would love to have Governor Christy from New Jersey move down. When saftety is compromised, we all lose, especially you. Look what happened to Steve Dillman. Just when you don't expect it, crime occurs. What's it going to take to get the message to you that with high crime, businesses want come to Middletown. I surely hope Mr. Verdin isn't reading this site as he may just forget about opening PAC, and Cincinnati State may consider moving elsewhere. Without public safety, the whole cookie crumbles.
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wasteful
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 793 |
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Hey Sgt. Friday, concerning your question on if the Police went on strike what would you do. If the Police are on strike you have no Law Enforcement anyway so you may as well Fire them bring, the Sheriff for 6 monthas and begin rebuilding the Police Dept. Don't think you would have to much trouble finding QUALIFIED Replacements.
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Bill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710 |
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Sarge, you haven't explained or why cops will end up working for minimum wage. Sounds like some scary jingle the union bosses have beaten into your head for years. If 90-95% of us in the private sector don't have unions, why aren't we working for minimum? What's there to be afraid of out here in the big, bad scary private sector? A little competition? Accountability for performance?
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Hahahahaha talk about getting facts straight I don't think you have gotten one straight yet. Please show me where anyone has suggested bringing Public Safety wages down to minimum wage. You seem to stretch the issue farther and farther in an attempt to gain sympathy. This is the wrong place for that.
When the Public Safety renewal levy fails serious financial consequences will follow.
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Sgt Joe Friday
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Wait a minute. You both have said the city is in bad shape and going bankrupt. I've seen the news the city is buying buildings, renovating downtown, and bringing in business. I've seen nor heard anyone on city council indicate the city is going bankrupt. The city's Moody rating is the highest you can get. has it been down-graded?
With all due respect, I am in question if either of you have the facts right. You talk about a working age, and now want to bring working wages down to minimum wage.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Nope Sarge- pension envy isn't what this is about. Some of us have just as nice of bennies as you people do. Some of us make just as much as you do in wages. Some of us will have just as nice of a retirement as you people will. No, it isn't about the pensions. It's all about the union demands involving a city that has no money to bargain. A city that is in bad financial shape. A city that steps on it's own feet due to the ineptness of the city leaders to run it properly. It's about a city struggling to survive and the union folks won't realize it and back off until better times return with the economy and the replacement of this worthless bunch in city hall occurs and we finally get some people in here who know what they're doing to run the show.
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Sgt. when I was a Police Office there was never any talk of a strike period......ever, with Unions you get that talk all of the time if they don't get their way, like little children throwing a temper tantrum. When we didn't get a raise because the budget was tight, we didn't whine and threaten to strike we went on and did the job we were hired to do....to Protect and Serve.
Personally I don't give a rats ass about your pension plan. It is the fact that the city is going bankrupt and we the citizens are basically held hostage by both the City and the Unions. When 70-75% of your budget is going to support about 180-200 workers and the rest of the city must suffer because of it there is an issue.
Drawing down the reserve is not a solution to the Sewer and Street issue.
The issue of the streets and Public safety have nothing to do with each other. You say you are here to help yet all you do is try to find excuses to blame the citizens for the possibility that you may not get raise.
As far as a strike I would fire anyone that went on strike. All you want to do is play the old scare tactic......of what if. My house burns down I have insurance. I am more than willing to look after my elderly neighbors on either side of me if they should need help with a crime committed against or form a block watch and if they was to break into my house, send the corner as I have no problem using a gun to protect my family.
You have yet to explain much of anything that convinces me as to why I should vote for a levy to just give you a raise. If you don't like the pay move on, shouldn't be to hard to fill your spot in this economy.
You fail to address much of what anyone else says on here and just keep coming back here laying the blame on someone else, I don't see where you are helping the situation at all.
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Sgt Joe Friday
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I'm here to help. Lets make this clear shall we.I've read many posters indicate that the streets are in bad condition. Well, who voted to allow that to happen? It wasn't police for the fire department, it was you, the residents. And what are you doing about that? Nothing. So now that it will cost the city hundreds of millions to fix the streets and sewers, the city has to drawl down the reserve. It was you, the residents, who voted to let the money go to other sources. What have you doneabout that since then? Nothing. So we get the blame for that. Pointing the finger and blame at others than yourselves.
What if police and fire were to strik, what would you do? Would you have your house burn down, your existence put in danger, no. That;s why we don't strike. And before anyone suggests Reagan let the air traffic controllers be fired, let me be the first to say he was wrong.
Pension envy is what this about.
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Bill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710 |
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According to your union logic Sargeant, all of us in the private sector are making minimum wage and are unqualified because we don't have a stamp of approval by a union? You don't think that municipalities, with a properly run HR Department, can interview and hire police officers, have periodic training, standards that they must meet, etc.? Do you union-lovers take us for fools?
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Sgt. once again you post and don't clarify what your point is in this year old letter.
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Sgt Joe Friday
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December 31, 2009 Dear Members, The intent of this letter is to bring the FOP membership up to speed with regards to Ohio’s public pension systems. At the request of the Ohio Retirement Study Council (ORSC), each of the five public pension systems in Ohio were mandated to draw up a plan to ensure the pension systems get to or retain their funding within the 30-year statutory requirement. These plans, developed by each of the individual systems, were presented at the September ORSC meeting to illustrate their current funding status and possible recommendations for legislative action within the requirements of Ohio law. Keep in mind that the ORSC requested these plans from the pension systems and the FOP has not endorsed nor taken a position on any of these current recommendations. In fact the FOP has already met with members of the ORSC to highlight some of the positions we have taken in the past and encourage open communication should any of these recommendations be drafted into legislation. The FOP has also conducted meetings with local lodge leaders from throughout Ohio to gather input on the membership’s views and ideas. For more specific information on the proposed changes see this document or look under the legislative section for additional news and updates. Within the last couple of months, the FOP has had several meetings with Chairman Todd Book of the ORSC and members of the Ohio House leadership. Currently, there has been no draft legislation that has been reviewable by our office. However, we anticipate that legislation will be forthcoming early in the year 2010 and we are working very closely with all the interested parties on these issues to ensure the voice of the FOP is heard. I also want to take this opportunity to make you aware of several editorials that will be propagated by Ohio’s newspapers in an attempt to “legislate by editorial”. The newspapers feel it is their duty to speak for the people and question the “pension envy” issue when the public pension systems are failing to meet their own 30 year funding statutory mandate in Ohio law. Certainly this will put pressure on the legislature to act on pension legislation but after speaking with our legislative leaders we are convinced that a knee-jerk reaction will not be taken. We also will have much more debate and conversations with the legislature once a draft is circulated with the proposed changes. I assure you that the FOP is taking, and has taken, steps to maintain the interests of our members, both active and retired, in supporting and maintaining our pensions and healthcare. Furthermore, as more information is developed, we will do our best to get it disseminated to the membership. Fraternally, Mark Drum, Legislative Chairman |
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Hermes
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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I hope your not smoking all that dope you guys have been confiscating. Where do you get the idea of minimum wage,no pension and unqualified officers ?? If potential officers all have to go through the exact same training then that means the officers we have are all unqualified. As for pensions officers should have the same pension as the people they serve,a simple 401-K. (or something similar)
I am an avid advocate of de-unionization of police & fire and do not support union's that threaten,intimidate and or harrass the people they serve. Cities are not companies and they do not produce a product to sell,they rely solely on taxation of the people to provide basic services at a reasonable cost. The union that represents police and fire is not and never has been reasonable.
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No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Sgt. if you are a Police Officer and I was your superior I would have to question your ability to actually be in a Position of authority with your comments above. Minimum wage , no pension, unqualified staff those are all buzz words for the union brats. If you can't rationalize any better than what you posted above then maybe you need a baby sitter to ride along with you on your shift to tell you what to do.
I was a Police Officer in the South in a right to work state for many years. I did not work for minimum wage. I had a paid pension program which I did not have to contribute anything, had paid Health care, paid vacation, paid unlimited sick leave, paid life insurance, paid uniform allowance, paid court Time, paid night differential, weapons allowance if I bought my own weapon, yearly raises that all other Public employees got, time and a half for overtime, double time and a half for holiday pay, triple time for over time on a holiday, paid educational benefits. I may of forgot a few things but you get the point.
As far as risking your life thank you, but you took the job knowing what you were getting into, to constantly fall back on that as a.......oh woe is me gets old, just as listening to the Fire Dept. talk about their runs going up each year. I see the Fire Dept. wiz by my business probably 5-10 times a day some days and most of the time 5 minutes later they are chugging on back to the station, They too took the job knowing what they were getting into and how it was, so the old it is dangerous, we all know that. It is dangerous being a clerk at night also.
The mentality of give us a raise constantly even though the city is on the verge of collapse is irresponsible on the part of City Workers who continually are only towing the Union line and looking out for themselves. Personally I would take the Unions to Conciliation after I got a list of those in line to be laid off. You want raises well it is going to cost you 1 worker for every $80,000.00 in raises. 3% raise that will be about 3 less Officers for the next 3 years. Sorry time for sacrifice and not, Oh woe is me I need another 3%. Unfortunately the Union Mantra is everyone else must sacrifice but not us....for we are Union.......HORSE PUCKY.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Sgt Joe states "The roads and sewers need to be repaired"- True. If you want the city to start doing that Friday, you need to go to the city building and ask Gilleland and company to return the street repair money to that fund. They took the money out of the street repair fund in the 80's, put it in the General Fund for emergency use and never returned it back to the street fund. Don't ask us taxpayers to up our taxes, ask the city to place the money back where it belongs.
Friday also states "we have the momentum on our side. We have SunCoke ready to get going." SunCoke has had to change their gameplan due to a recent court ruling. Not going to be quite the dynamo it was projected to be. Sgt. Joe mentions "We have some great projects going downtown" Not necessarily. Your statement may be a little premature. Verdin has yet to get the arts center going and is behind schedule to attract the number of new artists that were planned. Little has been done to get the arts center ready for operation as yet. Cincy State is still trying to determine their gameplan and the city has already purchased several buildings IN THE HOPE (as in nothing in concrete) that Cincy State will start occupying these buildings. The city also purchased two buildings that were "mothballed" for POTENTIAL USE AT A LATER DATE (again speculation and potential wishful thinking they will ever be used) Nothing has happened downtown as yet to justify excitement...just hope that things will happen. Sgt Joe also says "The school system has a new superintendant". Reread the hope, but no tangible evidence as yet that great things are happening. Sorry, can't get too excited on promises with no indicators that things are changing for the better. City has not given us citizens a reason to support a .5% tax increase. Didn't see anything happen with the .25% we just gave them. Hard to give more, if one can't see the results of giving before. More wasted money if this passes IMO. This is a poor community. Alot of unemployment. Taxes on people is not the answer for revenue generation. Job creation is however. JMO |
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