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Mike_Presta 
MUSA Council 
Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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 Posted: Dec 20 2011 at 7:01pm |
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So, tonight they voted to give MMF $75,000 for “property
development”!!!
They all hemmed and hawed about what the money would be used
for. For cripes sakes!!! It was in the newspaper that MMF has made an
offer on the Sorg Opera house!!! (Their
offer was no doubt contingent upon getting $75K of the taxpayers’ hard-earned dollars.) “Property development” my butt!
Mr. Picard spoke eloquently about MMF when he said they were “Businessmen who have invested their own time, their own effort…” Their time and effort, but NOT their own MONEY in these screwball risky schemes, Mr. Picard!!! These are wealthy men with real estate and commercial development backgrounds. Why aren’t they willing to use their own money to buy the Sorg Opera house??? Its asking price is less than $60K. Most of these people spend more than that on cars. If this is such a great idea, why hasn't one of them bought this great investment for their own account???
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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ground swat
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Joined: Mar 31 2011 Status: Offline Points: 367 |
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Posted: Dec 20 2011 at 5:56pm |
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Thanks- wasn't pointing fingers but it wouldn't surprise me if wonder women and crew aren't following the rules. Trust the down line people and deal with MF on building inspections. Hess , I believe helps me out.
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middie83
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Joined: Dec 10 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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Posted: Dec 19 2011 at 10:32pm |
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Mike: where can I get a copy of the workbook? Nevermind found it on the city's site.
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middie83
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Joined: Dec 10 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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Posted: Dec 19 2011 at 10:28pm |
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Groundswat: I know the fire marshal was through recently this year for their annual fire inspection because they weren't allowed to have any events in the one portion until they got a bunch of stuff up to code.
Still don't agree with the city buying it up though...I'll leave it at that as most of us know how I feel about our city manager and her decisions. |
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jag123
MUSA Resident 
Joined: Nov 05 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 143 |
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Posted: Dec 19 2011 at 10:55am |
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Stanky: I was commenting on Mike's post about the sign at the airport.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council
Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Posted: Dec 19 2011 at 10:34am |
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And yes, we are
STUPID. Only those at City Hall can
understand things like big numbers. We are too dumb. Okay, now try to
follow the bouncing ball (this is all from the 12/20/2011 workbook, pages 100,
& 101 of 119): First we transfer
$1,139,000 from the City Income Tax Fund to the Fire Relief & Pension
Fund (Fund #726). Then, later on, we
transfer $1,426,496 From the Fire Relief & Pension Fund (Fund
#726) to
the General Fund (Fund #100). So, did
the Fire Relief & Pension Fund (Fund #726) already have about $300K that
they didn’t need??? If so, what the heck
is going on??? (About $1.5 million is enough for a lot of police and
firefighters, if we don’t buy the Sorg Mansion.) Next, we transfer $877,000 from the City Income Tax Fund to the
Police Relieve and Pension Fund (Fund #725).
Then, later on, we transfer $1,153,354 from the Police Relief & Pension
Fund (Fund #725) to the General Fund (Fund #100). Once again, mucho dinero that wasn’t needed
transferred to a fund that wasn’t needy.
What the heck is going on??? Why
does our finance department keep getting awards??? And last, but not least: $3,151,345 From the Public Safety
Levy Fund (Fund #200) to the General Fund (Fund #100). That’s the entire Public Safety levy amount
for the year (even though they want us to think it was somewhere around $2.5
million, due to the poor economy)!!! So, the next time you hear that the Public Safety Levy didn’t
bring in as much as it was supposed to bring in ($3 million), ask for your $151,345
to be returned. And the next time they
say that they keep the Public Safety money separate, tell them to look at the
12/06/2011 Workbook, where it shows that they transferred it ALL into the
General Fund. And the next time they tell you that they “know where every
penny goes”, ask them why they approved the transfer of over THIRTY-FOUR
MILLION DOLLARS in a typical year such as 2011, with most of it within the
General Fund!!!! (I’ll tell you right now what they will tell you: that “you
don’t understand…go sit down.” |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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spiderjohn
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Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Posted: Dec 19 2011 at 6:51am |
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looks as if Santa will only stop downtown this year, to "bail out" the deceased Sorg Theater(after being left to rot for 5 years). Will cost infinitely more to bring it back now, after poor planning/decisions.
City will eventually buy all of the former downtown dead zone b4 giving it all away to out-of-towners, and we will pay for it. Vacant/dormant/useless purchased buildings litter the area while our streets continue to deteriorate(unless you live in a brightly/expensively lit historic district!), and public safety(police/fire/health dept) are cut back. Could Mr.Becker, Mr.Allen and Ms.Scott Jones come to their senses and give us the best present of all by stopping this madness 2morrow evening? Or will they continue to dig us in deeper, while talking down to us? |
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Stanky
MUSA Resident
Joined: Jul 04 2011 Status: Offline Points: 193 |
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Posted: Dec 18 2011 at 9:27pm |
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jag123, you lost me. ??
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jag123
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Posted: Dec 17 2011 at 8:51pm |
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Sign plans have been submitted and approved. Very strict rules. It will be paid for by Magellan AeroSpace and Middletown Aviation Foundation. It will be sharp. Great things going on at the airport.
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ground swat
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Posted: Dec 17 2011 at 5:42pm |
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Hope it doesn't catch on fire after the new year! And I have know knowledge that it could, want to stop it at that. The city wants to own these properties, have they really had the fire dept. go thru ever building and inspect them?
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council
Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: Dec 17 2011 at 6:16am |
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Mike Yep you can bet that before noon Wednesday we will be the proud owners of the Sorg Opera House.
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Mike_Presta
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Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Posted: Dec 17 2011 at 4:59am |
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According to the agenda, the City Manager will be presenting a “Cincinnati State Update”, but it gives no further clue as to what that update will include. Let’s hope that it finally includes some concrete information instead of the usual “We expect a deal by____________ (fill in whatever date you want to guess)”. The City Manager’s report on “local preferences” contains some interesting comments: “local vendors already enjoy natural advantages, including a more intimate knowledge of their municipality’s needs,…” Hmm…the very same could be said about local Realtors and commercial developers, couldn’t it??? So why don’t we let them handle the local real estate and commercial development instead of City Hall??? I find it laughable that the City Manager finalizes her argument AGAINST local preferences with the following quote: “…the existence of preference programs upsets the free market forces that set prices and ensure adequate competition. It can also be argued that establishing any manner of preference in the public procurement process challenges an organization’s ethics by defining a new process to express favoritism in how tax revenues are spent and to establish a market that is no longer fair to all interested parties.” So...why is it that she, and the City Council, can’t see that this is exactly what they are doing when they subsidize a single enterprise (for example, Pendleton), with tax money, giving them an insurmountable advantage over any possible competitor (and thus establishing a monopoly)??? I guess that she only understands free market economics when one of her pals isn’t involved, or when her significant other or friends do not have a personal interest in the business area involved. The very words that SHE quoted sure indicate that SHE “gets it”. Yet, she is proposing that we upset the free market again with the Sorg Opera building and the other white elephants MMF and Verdin have their sights on. And the free-market, supposedly financial and law educated Republicans on Council appear ready to go along with her anti-free market binge. This seems more like the National-Socialists approach to me. I might remind the Manager and the members of Council what the Manager says under the “CONFORMITY TO CITY POLICY” of this report on local preferences: “It is the City’s policy to be responsive to the citizens of Middletown in a cost-effective way that will reduce the amount of tax dollars needed to operate the City.” I hope that each and every council member will keep this City Policy in mind when they cast their votes on providing money for the purchase of the Sorg Opera building, and similar structures.
From the minutes of the November 2, 2011, Airport Commission meeting: “Aeronca has offered to help pay for a sign made of steel for the airport. Designs have been discussed and submitted to Marty Kohler.” I have to wonder if our city sign ordinances will be applied as stringently to this sign as they are to the signs of businesses that Kohler does not favor??? I hope so. Perhaps then it will become obvious how stupid these ordinances actually are, and perhaps they will finally be thrown out. But I doubt it. Kohler will somehow find a way to allow a proper sign for the airport while keeping the stifling ordinances in effect to apply to any business he deems as “tacky”.
The only controversial legislation on the agenda appears to be Agenda Item 3, the $75K for MMF (which I already discussed briefly above). We already know where this is going: According to the Middletown Journal, MMF has made an offer to buy the former Sorg Opera house. We already know that this is to please the same small group that we already have We also know that $75K is just the start. This building was forced into foreclosure by the City. They did not like the business plan that the former owner was following (too tacky for one of the “sacred” buildings) nor did they like the color scheme (too tacky to be across the street from the historical society), so they constantly harassed them until they could no longer operate. So, not only will the City have to bring all of the items for which they cited the previous owner up to snuff, at a cost that we taxpayers cannot afford, we know that the Historic Commission will delight in asking for a full restoration (to be supervised by a local “historian”, of course) at a cost of millions to we taxpayers before the coveted “certificate of appropriateness” can be granted. (No…I doubt if junk auto hoods will be deemed “appropriate” as a façade for this building. After all, this will be at the taxpayers’ expense---money is no object!!!) What I can’t understand is: We are a city that is supposedly going bankrupt. We cannot afford our police, or our firefighters, nor can we afford to maintain our crumbling infrastructure. Our City’s debt is increasing EVERY year!!! Where in the heck are we going to get all of this money??? |
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