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Aflatkey, the $40 million from the state IS guaranteed, or committed to, PROVIDED that MIddletown passes this bond levy for its share of the cost. Part of that $40 million is what the state owes Middletown for the state share of the first phase of the rebuilding process (the elementary schools), but is not required to pay unless and until Middletown passes the bond issue to fund the second phase. 10 years ago, Middletown chose to get started on the building process before its "turn" for funding came up, and the state approved the two-phase, two-bond process.
 
Enough, there are no building plans yet.  The cost of full architectural drawings and plans is part of what would be paid for out of the bond levy, if passed.  There is information at www.votemiddies.com and at www.middletowncityschools.com on the general elements of what is included in the project, including a site plan of the high school site showing the footprint of the proposed new/renovated buildings.  A new middle school of approx. 140,000 square feet (2/3 the size of Vail but double the size of Verity) for 7th and 8th grade, with modern efficient mechanical, HVAC, etc., modern science labs, fully equipped for wireless internet, modern security system.  High school would be fully renovated with new mechanical, HVAC, lighting, wireless Internet, new space added to replace the space the high school currently uses in the Manchester Building but to have it all under one roof with a new, more secure entrance and security system, modern science labs.
 
Yes, the plans include a new competition gym to be added on to the high school, to replace Wade E. Miller gym at "Vail" which is where the boys high school basketball team currently practices and plays.  For a high school the size of MHS (1700 - 1800 students) two gyms is standard, to accomodate all the P.E. classes, sports teams and other uses for the gym (including assemblies that do not fit in the auditorium).  The middle school will have a gym, for its own P.E. classes, sports teams, etc.
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I have read every element and argument associated with the levy. Nothing would please me more than to vote for a tax that would have a payback, that would raise dwindling property values, increase enrollment, and position Middletown City School District on the path of EXCELLENCE.

This levy does not accomplish nor address that, in any fashion.

In contrast, the most consistent claim is 'we have to pass this to get $40 MM', and an expense of $55 MM, with no results in past, none forecast in  future, a market in decline, student population in decline, spending cash on buildings which do not improve results, when a building does not change socio-economic demogarphics.

If it passes, the county auditor's office will be very busy next spring when property tax appeals can be filed. Furthermore, it will embolden the city to think ineptitude and mismanagement should be rewarded, laying the foundation for raising taxes to 2-2.25%.

The levy should FAIL on fundamental merits. At the end of the day, it cost $ 55 MM with no return. Simply not worth throwing good money at a bad solution, paraphrasing city leadership on many occasions.

Below is not aimed at Ms. Andrew; rather the plurality of Middletown leadership.

         

10 rules of an incompetent professional

I would like to share the best rules that place ignorance at the most unsuspected limits. I’m
positive you’ll recognize someone close to you who appears to be a true professional but who, in reality, isn’t anything more than an unqualified beginner. These are, in my opinion the most important rules:

1. “Blame others”: whatever happens, there will always be someone who can be blamed for things that go wrong, however much responsibility, or lack of, they have. In the slang of useless people, this rule is called “passing the buck” or saying “the dog ate my work“.

2. “Steal and use the achievements of others”: which is essential for getting to the top, whilst those at the bottom never stop complaining about our incompetence. In the slang of the useless, this is called “taking all the credit“.

3. “Deny having done anything”: even though you’ve been caught on film committing the worst possible crime, deny it all. It could always be thought that it’s a complex plot created by your worst enemy to question your honesty.

4. “Don’t face up to things and avoid making statements”: never try to defend yourself if you’ve done something bad. You will be accused of things that you hadn’t even thought of. It’s better to avoid making statements and mention a brief: “I haven’t done anything, this is a plot against my honesty and good name”.

5. “Look for false witnesses to back up the lie”: there is always an absent-minded friend, one of those who’s dying to be at your side, who will be willing to state anything, and back up our tale. It’s important to have some to hand.

6. “Get others to make statements for you”: if there is no other alternative, and rule 4 can’t be applied, it’s much better to get others to do it for you. In addition to the witnesses from the previous rule, try to get people who are fairly simple to make statements for you; they’ll end up boring everyone to death.

7. “Get a lawyer to make statements for you”: once the previous point has been exhausted, it’s best to get a lawyer to respond with excuses and contradictions.

8. “Invent a Saintly role”: if ultimately we have to say something, it’s important to have created a story that elevates us to the level of Holy Spirit and makes everyone believe that under no circumstances would we be capable of such acts.

9. “Throw stones at the enemy”: someone wants to back us into a corner? However saintly they are, they will always have a dark side. Look for it and hit them hard until no doubt remains that the person is worse than the devil.

10. “Invent a conspiracy”: if someone has backed us into a corner, and we haven’t been able to take them down, there is no other alternative than to plot a conspiracy, using a smoke screen. The most common stories are those that involve the abuse or harassment of women, because they always manage to attract nonsensical parrots.


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10 rules of an incompetent professional Thumbs Up

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I know many at City Hall that qualify for and have used all the above rules.


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Acclaro: this post is not meant for support or non-support of the levy. I fully understand the arguments from both sides. Every aspect of this has been argued except: if we don't pass the levy now, lose the $40M from the state, WHAT IS THE LONG TERM SOLUTION FOR MIDDLETOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL? How do we effectively renovate it without the millions of dollars that will be required? A "Band-Aid" of 1 or 2 million dollars will not be sufficient. PLEASE give us an alternative to voting "no." just 1chmoore.
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I agree Vivian the 10 rules are right out of Donam Abby. These rule have been applied even more so in the last few weeks.
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Why not city fundraiser's? Why not community service hours for kids to help with minor repairs (paint, cleaning, etc.)There are a lot of ways to raise money. I haven't seen any action on that!!! There are a LOT of people willing to help and a lot of resources to tap into!!! There's your alternative!!!!!


Where's the unity in this community?
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chmoore1, the most salient point or accomplishment to move the levy forward, or PASS, with the majority, would have been to have met and exceeded measures associated with education. Stated simply; results matter. Without results, with so many businesses moving out, the timing with this levy is premature.

When will MCSD have a shot at funds again, is the question which I don't have an immediate answer, but will find. So what if the district falls back 5 years or so in the stack rank; it gives the district time to get results.

As for maintenance, why not determine and increase the permanent improvement dollars Mr. Ison states are depleted. Replenish those funds. Need a levy for that? .25 mil is more palpable than a 4 mil.

The timing of this levy is too premature without substantive benefit and payback, and results reflective the trend forward is meaningful.

It would be advantageous for the district to reset the time table for the funds as it is not ripe based upon the factors referenced .

If citizens can drive through potholes, they can withstand the band-aid when a pipe bursts.

Middie Pride? That's leveraging sports to build a gym within a $55 MM cap outlay. Results and trends dictate a millage about .1 that the district is seeking.

Build it....but they won't come.....and results will not improve. The Coleman Report is conclsuive in my opinion.        
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rriveter: there are programs for student use for painting and cleaning. However, that doesn't address the mechanicals of the building: replacing pipes, electrical, roofing, masonry, restroom renovations (ADA).   just 1chmoore.
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Acclaro: Mrs. Andrew can answer this better, but my understanding is that there will be no more "slots" in the future. Once you pass up the opportunity (that is, to complete your master plan, you do not get another shot from the state.   It's no or never to recoup the 40Million. just 1chmorre.
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Why would the stack rank just fall back when the remedy the state put forth in Randolph was to a large extent, based upon funding? Are there statutes of limitations on the "match"?   
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Mrs Andrew,please provide the house of representatives apropiation bill number that shows the money is available.
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Ms. Andrew, it is apparent Ohio provides the mechanism for funding schools based upon CFAP and ELPP based upon the three year averaging of property income (wealth in district comparisons, and when a levy is not passed, that district is put back in the LAPSED category for future funding prioritization. SEE BELOW.

My question is:

I.  If MCSD was in the 66% percentile for funding, why is the state NOT paying $62,700,000 against the total of $95,000,000?

II.  If it fails, would these funds and MCSD be placed back in LAPSED, which averages about 60-65 school districts annually? And if so, would not the funding be available within three years after the averaging associated with  CFAP/ ELPP, and funding available AGAIN in 2017?

III. Would you agree in a period of three years, the movement for funding went from MCSD having a RANK of 398 to 217, which astounds me the top 33% of districts getting a percentile rank of support, would catapult so quickly?

IV. A school district CAN alter its Master Plan without negatively affecting Ohio's funding, as it is based upon CFAP/ ELPP; in other words, the percentile would not vary, nor by much if it is the 3 year average against other districts.

V. Can you please explain why MCSD is not getting 66%? Is there elements being added that are poutside what the state considers 'non essentials', which have made the funding < 50%.

Thank you.          
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VI. Ms. Andrew, how many $ MM in the levy and proposal is Local Fund Initiative (LFI)- greater than $12 MM? What % of $95 MM please?  
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VII. So sorry Ms. Andrew, I missed your earlier reference to carry-over from  Phase 1. why would that be lost associated with reimbursing the district for expenditures in the initial phase, and what %/ how many $ MM does this represent in lost revenue?

Also....in the statute---where is the reference matching funds are lost if it fails?

3318.054 Lapse of classroom facilities project due to failure of voters to approve ballot measures.

(A) If conditional approval of a city, exempted village, or local school district's project lapses as provided in section 3318.05 of the Revised Code, or if conditional approval of a joint vocational school district's project lapses as provided in division (D) of section 3318.41 of the Revised Code, because the district's electors have not approved the ballot measures necessary to generate the district's portion of the basic project cost, and if the district board desires to seek a new conditional approval of the project, the district board shall request that the Ohio school facilities commission set the scope, basic project cost, and school district portion of the basic project cost prior to resubmitting the ballot measures to the electors. To do so, the commission shall use the district's current assessed tax valuation and the district's percentile for the prior fiscal year. For a district that has entered into an agreement under section 3318.36 of the Revised Code and desires to proceed with a project under sections 3318.01 to 3318.20 of the Revised Code, the district's portion of the basic project cost shall be the percentage specified in that agreement. The project scope and basic costs established under this division shall be valid for one year from the date the commission approves them.

(B) Upon the commission's approval under division (A) of this section, the district board may submit the ballot measures to the district's electors for approval of the project based on the new project scope and estimated costs. Upon electoral approval of those measures, the district shall be given first priority for project funding as such funds become available.

(C) When the commission determines that funds are available for the district's project, the commission shall do all of the following:

(1) Determine the school district portion of the basic project cost under section 3318.032 of the Revised Code, in the case of a city, exempted village, or local school district, or under section 3318.42 of the Revised Code, in the case of a joint vocational school district;

(2) Conditionally approve the project and submit it to the controlling board for approval pursuant to section 3318.04 of the Revised Code;

(3) Encumber funds for the project under section 3318.11 of the Revised Code;

(4) Enter into an agreement with the district board under section 3318.08 of the Revised Code.

  
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I noticed that the section 8 recipients across the street have a "vote yes" sign in their front yards what a joke. We get to pay their rent, food and medical care while they sit around and drink beer and party all day long and they have a vote yes sign in their yard. That's one of the reasons my family and I will vote no. 
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fellow Bloggers,

all of this specific information reflects the bureaucracy your state government has put in place  so not only do you rent the car and pay to operate it but you buy it as well. ( avis and hertz loves you ) Since this form of funding is unconstitutional we should be reviewing the options on how to become legally correct in fund raising for schools. To believe in the concepts and ideas that it is acceptable for local lobby's and state wide representatives to continue to ROB the citizens of ohio who have worked for their property (every nickle and dime ) through out their life is reprehensible, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of constitutional law.

DeRolph v. State was a landmark case in Ohio constitutional law in which the Ohio Supreme Court ruled that the state's method for funding public education was unconstitutional. Handed down on March 24, 1997, the 4-3 opinion said that the state funding system "fails to provide for a thorough and efficient system of common schools" as required by the Ohio Constitution and directed the state to find a remedy. The court would look at the case several times over the next 12 years before relinquishing jurisdiction, though the underlying problems with the school funding system were never fully solved.

this is the problem that needs to be solved. Keep your eye on the ball. Or sit in the stands and eat popcorn and get FAT!!!!  (make sure there is plenty of butter on it )

research in sales tax & income tax option for equality in public school funding. 

Overview

First the schools would have to quit operating in the mindset that they have to spend their entire budget each year that is raised from fund raising.

Second each school district would have to have a general fund trust for surplus for the purpose of renovation of any type or educational improvements.

Third the state would fund all 615 school districts equally so they had a common thread as the supreme court ruling ask for . For this they might use the cost per student locally plus a % of the share of funds raised by the state as to allow savings for future development of the district. Over time all districts would have significant savings and could with out bonds, levys , or property tax improve what ever they could agree upon as a school board that is in compliance with state regulators.

 

Funding

If the state would increase by 3 % sales tax and income tax to include corporate income tax the numbers are substantial.

In 2012 ohio collected $25,924,024,000.00  tax data from

                                     http://www.governing.com/gov-data/state-tax-revenue-data.html

add 3 % and you have  additional $777,720,720.00

divide that by 615 school districts’ and each district gets $43,417,171.08

subtract yearly operating cost and start the district trust fund for physical facility improvement and other deemed important developments in education.

 

While my arithmetic was done with a simple calculator and one could say I raised it to much, you can see that with some thought the state economist and bookkeepers could help legislators come up with a algorithm that would provide for schools to have the resources needed with out unfair taxing of property owners private or commercial. Since land tax funding of public education has been deemed unconstitutional .(DeRolph v. State a landmark case in Ohio constitutional law) a system that reflects the above specifications in one way or another would solve the problem.  Land tax funding of public schools would be abolished. The tax would be spread over the entire population more equally.

Yes we would still have to pay, however with schools saving for future generations threw their own state regulated trust funds it would bring a new dynamic to the table where education was the focus not the budget. The state allows state funded retirement funds for their state funded employees. This is a propagating account with the purpose of distribution to a set goal. What I suggest is similar in nature for our public school institutions.

chmoore1  you have asked What can we do to fix the schools real estate property. I posted the above with no answer from you so I can tell you are truly not interested in fixing the problem. since the propagation of the current system is unconstitutional  you would still at this point prefer to violate constitutional law.  These facts cannot be negated since you continue to post on this blog with the inability to compromise and be constitutionally legal.

its your duty as well as the governments constitutional duty to “provide for a thorough and efficient system of common schools" common denotes that the school in Indian hills should be a carbon copy of the school in middletown. They are not because people like you and the lobby you represent continue to violate our constitutional freedoms by propagating a illegal form of funding schools.


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“We most likely will have another bond on the ballot in May,” Middletown School Board president Marcia Andrew said. “We are holding back the kids if we can’t provide an educational environment for them to graduate competitively.”

- Marcia Andrew, in the Miami University Oxford student newspaper

Sad isn't it? BOE states kids are held back if they aren't given $95,000,000 for buildings.

No, the system has failed them and the residents. This does not create urgency, and certainly isn't selling. Any fault of the city and its altered demographics? Of course not, its the property owner for failing to unleash $300. annually for 27 years, just chump change, so these kids can hear over the fans and the 96 degree heat.

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Originally posted by Bocephus Bocephus wrote:

I noticed that the section 8 recipients across the street have a "vote yes" sign in their front yards what a joke. We get to pay their rent, food and medical care while they sit around and drink beer and party all day long and they have a vote yes sign in their yard. That's one of the reasons my family and I will vote no. 


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A friend and I were discussing this subject last evening, and an interesting point arose: We wondered where all of the local history buffs stood on this issue.

Consider just the few history fans that have posted on this very forum, urging us to back the spending of millions upon millions of taxpayers dollars to repair and restore local buildings that actually have little to no historic significance, yet none of them have posted a word about saving the former Middletown High School.  Why not???  Its alumni include All American athletes, noted doctors, scientists and lawyers, famous professional athletes, noted theatrical performers, alt least one each Olympic gold medal winner and Pulitzer Prize winner, and the list goes on.  Such a building is certainly more historic than, say, Marty Kohler's or Mayor Mulligan's house...or any of the other buildings around certain areas of our town that they have implored us to "save".

We also wondered:  If one drove through the Highlands Historic District and the South Main Street Historic District, how many yard signs would one see in FAVOR of Issue 3, which will ASSURE the DESTRUCTION of one of the OLDEST schools in the state of Ohio (and arguably the MOST HISTORIC building in Middletown)!!!

Yes, it will be interesting, indeed, when the usual list of supporters is published in The Journal, how many of the SAME NAMES will be IN FAVOR of DESTROYING the HISTORIC Middletown High School that were on the petition to have the rest of us taxpayers pay every month for the rest of time for FAKE gas lights to spruce up THEIR homes (when Middletown never, ever had gas street lights, EVER!!!)

It was an interesting discussion...to say the least...and if one can laugh at hypocrisy, it was quite funny!!! 
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Isn't the additional contradiction, the added oxymoron,. is the BOE resides under the roof with city council and city leaders, which articulate the critical nature of downtown revitalization, and its strategic underpinning of Cincinnati State, a school of higher education. Indeed, Superintendent Ison is on the record espousing the virtues of having MUM and the middle/ high school, in such proximity. Isn't the middle school presently near Cincinnati State and a distance even shorter than MUM to the high school?

I was sharing with a friend when I worked downtown at P & G and would listen to Gary Burbank on my drives late afternoon. If you were a fan of Burbank on WLW 700, he was keen with satire with Earl Pitts, and "you know what makes me angry, you know what makes me sick. Wake up America" satirical skits.

Earl Pitts would find much to say about Middletown, its hypocrisy, and contradiction, in daily affairs. Consider the city wants revitalization, but the site and historic nature of the present school is in steep contradiction to the endless pursuit of historic tax credits the city pursues for the Manchester and others.

The Middie election committee and its group also has stated many claims which are simply false and misleading associated with funding of the levy, which I will address in the next few days. Most blatant, was the state facilities commission OCFP, does allow 66% of funding for renovation. Its requirement is a minor request, not a blatant NO, as was stated for years by the BOE and others, reference to 66% cost or greater for renovation----lets build new.

I have yet to hear any BOE member, Mr. Ison, anyone associated with the system or supporter, address school drop-outs, increased enrollment, increased performance, et al. What diluted the 66% the state was matching based upon MCSD percentile? GYMS, wifi, other goodies to taxpayers with no demonstrative benefit, adding a tax burden nearly 12-14%.

What would Earl Pitts say about the state of affairs in city and MCSD?  "Wake up Middletown."       
   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vivian Moon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 13 2014 at 10:27am
Mike, I just love it when you get down and dirty. 
You can bet more history was made at the Middletown HS and Wade Miller Gym than even happened at the Manchester Inn...Thumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs Up

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chmoore1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 13 2014 at 12:15pm
So, does all of this fondness for the "historic" aspect of MMS mean that you will support a levy to "TOTALLY RENOVATE" it for an estimated $36+ million? Or does your fondness stop at spending any money on it, and let it continue to deteriorate? 91 years and counting.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote acclaro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 13 2014 at 12:55pm
Any plans to answer the questions chm1, or by Marcia Andrew or a BOE member, or Mr. Ison?

Majority are driven purely on economic reasons. And, failure to perform.

Let the BOE and city leaders figure out the disconnect between their messaging on history and restoration, and need to build for district parity, and the dilution of the 66% state match as the add-in bonus for the Middie athletic supporters.

The letters by Chris Wells, and principal were highly ineffective and non persuasive. 

'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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