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Wait, wait…do you hear that strange noise…That big sucking sound is all those HUD Funds leaving the City of Middletown coffer’s.
Yes. sir now you will see who has really benefited from all that HUD poor peoples money.

FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING IN "SLUMVILLE USA" AND GETTING WELFARE CHECKS EVERY SEVERAL MONTHS FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERMENTS TO KEEP THIS CITY OPERATING.   

JUST THINK.... IN 15 SHORT YEARS THESE IDIOTS HAVE COMPLETLY DESTROYED OUR HOME TOWN
THEY HAVE DONE SUCH A FINE JOB....HELL YES GIVE THEM MORE MONEY AND ANOTHER RAISE!

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Perplexed
You are sooo correct…
.Warren County will receive all Section 8 Vouchers that are located East of Dixie Hwy. That area would include the large Robin Spring complex.
Warren County is NOT HAPPY to say the least…

Unlike Middletown they do NOT want to be the Section 8 capital of Ohio

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Yes  sir, City Hall said they only get about $150,000 for the Section 8 Program…
I can’t wait for you to see the tap dance they are going to do to cover up this big lie.Confused
Keep your eye on the bouncing red ball folks….

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Agreed with most of what you said but there are many people who work for the city who have their master degrees. Some are in fire and police and some are spread throughout the city building. Doesn't make them good candidates for CM. But I do agree with the experience factor. Personally I think all five candidates are weak. Maybe they should reopen the whole thing.
AK - What is going on with that?
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How does anyone in their right mind conclude that the transfer of the HUD Housing Choice Voucher Program to the Butler Metropolitan Housing Authority would be a feather in the cap of a Community Revitalization Department staff member? The units to be transferred to BHMA is 1662, or, the current number administered by Middletown Public Housing Authority. What makes anyone think that non-Middletown segments of Warren and Butler Counties will clamor for Section 8 units to be transferred there? And, what about the 10% of HCV funds that is earmarked for administrative purposes? Yes, there are likely less than $150,000 in funds utilized by the city. And, what about the funds paid to Nelson Associates, etc., etc. Please be advised that there's much, much more than $150,000+/- involved to set the record straight. It's illogical for anyone to presume that the transfer of the Section 8 program is something to be considered favorable for one current city staff candidate for City Manager.
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So, with new admin, that already exists, Adkins will need a job. So...he will get city manager.

New boss.....same as old boss.

 
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Acclaro: the number of vouchers will remain the same in Middletown (1662) the city will no longer have control over the program and they will no longer get the HUD money they were getting to run the program. They also will be missing some other HUD money in the form of CDBG NSP funds. You know the ones they like to move around to use else where for other projects.so no I wouldn't call it a win because you didn't reduce the number of vouchers and you also lost all the extra HUD money. So no Ms. Judy and Dougie failed. But then again he can always spin it to them about how much more he can do. Remember when he told council "we haven't done any thing wrong" "they have to charge us with something" No Dougie you're wrong ,they told you you were "not in compliance " that means you're not doing the right thing. That's how HUD WORKS. If you are to stupid to figure that out... But then he's not stupid that how he spun it to council and they bought it. IMO
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I am confused. Are you stating the 1662 vouchers will go to Warren and Butler or the ADMINISTRATION?

The city of Middletown makes less than $150,000 yearly on administration.

If you are stating the 1662 vouchers go.....isn't that a win for Adkins and city council?  
If that is the case, then its obvious why Adkins is in the running for city manager, as many wanted the voucher reduction.

From what you are stating, Adkins will be city manager before the HUD change.
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OVER THE HILL - Did any one else think in Doug's speech that he pretty much threw council and especially Judy under the bus. He said he just does what his boss tells him to do. That's Judy!! Oh well since she's leaving I guess he figured he could throw her under the bus. It might be kind of funny if she fired him before he could become city manager.LOL

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I don't think when all those DISCRIMANATION LAW SUITS hit City Hall that Mr Adkins can use the defense of “the devil made me do it or Miss Judy demand that I do it”.

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I would be more concerned if any of these suggestions I have read, with nothing coming to fruition, that something amiss came out of the section 8 audits. If Adkins needs a job, council will make him city manager just so he has a job for doing their bidding on reducing section 8.
HUD vs MPHA is still an on going legal case therefore I can not obtained any records under the Freedom of Information Act until this case is completed.
MPHA has 1662 Section 8 Vouchers…period…Adkins has not reduced anything…he 
simply did not allow another tenant to move in when a unit became available.

When HUD moves all 1662 voucher to Warren and Butler counties they will once again open the voucher program and fill all 1662 vouchers…NOTHING HAS BEEN REDUCED…NOTHING HAS CHANGED…the only thing that will change is where the HUD checks will be sent the first of the month and that will be to Warren and Butler counties. The only other thing that has changed is the balance of the checkbook at City Hall where they had to pay out for all these attorney fees  

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Although the damage to
Middletown's reputation has already occurred, and the city is tarnished, even if they had 0 vouchers.

I suspect there are a lot of secrets council doesn't want out, hence, disqualifying Ms. Howington. The other two outsiders just are not adequately experienced. Finally, on Ms. Howington, she also was given an offer within the past month, she rejected. I disagree with your assertion she was not qualified. On the contrary, she is the only one whom is.

If Adkins gets it, it will because of what is stated above. 

An awful lot of talk about Adkins and the HUD review, but the fact he is in the final selection seem to demonstrate the city has a different recollection of events than what is stated about it being moved, and the final outcome.  I am starting to feel this is a Shakespeare play called "Much Ado About Nothing", as there is nothing to show section
8 has been moved, nor that Doug Adkins was negatively impacted by the audit.
HUD will not make a statement, if they even do it then, about what has occurred here in Middletown until this legal case is resolved. HUD does not want to have their name in the paper associated with all this negative press coverage that they have received from Middletown.
However we do know that the contract with Chase Construction, who conducted the inspection of the Section 8 units, has not had their contract renewed.
I would presume the final date of this massive transfer would be on or before
June 30, 2014              

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Can't have their secrets coming out. Have to keep their back room and hush hush deals quite.
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sj....I agree. The new boss is Adkins, just like the old boss, Gilleland, just like her old boss, Husemann, just like his former peer, Becker. Funny Mr. Mulligan says CHANGE in his state of the union, but there will be the need to have "secrets" protected by changing to a city manager that is hush hush.

This council makes many miss even Schiavone, Williams, and gang.

Ms. Howington deserves better.   
 
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This city needs a new start with a fresh new manager I would agree bring in the best candidate to do the job that needs done let's get started.
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Meet the new boss.....
Same as the old boss....
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AKBobby, there is no comparison between the depth of Ms. Howington's experience and education than any candidate of the five. She has a Master's degree from Miami's Public Administration department, as hard as the MBA Farmer program.

The current council in Newport rave about her capabilities, and a council member with 10 years experience stated she was by far, the most qualified city manager in the 10 years, and 3 candidates  he had interviewed.

Additionally, she has the most real time, on the job training and experience, by far, as a city manager.

To suggest either Adkins or Landen are in the same league is misguided and nonsensical. Neither have any city manager experince, Adkins was a prosecutor, and Landen, a city lawyer. To even suggest either are worthy based upon current experience is so completely naive and fool hardy, nothing further needs to be said.

I would be more concerned if any of these suggestions I have read, with nothing coming to fruition, that something amiss came out of the section 8 audit. If Adkins needs a job, council will make him city manager just so he has a job for doing their bidding on reducing section 8. Although the damage to Middletown's reputation has already occurred, and the city is tarnished, even if they had 0 vouchers.

I suspect there are a lot of secrets council doesn't want out, hence, disqualifying Ms. Howington. The other two outsiders just are not adequately experienced. Finally, on Ms. Howington, she also was given an offer within the past month, she rejected. I disagree with your assertion she was not qualified. On the contrary, she is the only one whom is.

If Adkins gets it, it will because of what is stated above.

An awful lot of talk about Adkins and the HUD review, but the fact he is in the final selection seem to demonstrate the city has a different recollection of events than what is stated about it being moved, and the final outcome.  I am starting to feel this is a Shakespeare play called "Much Ado About Nothing", as there is nothing to show section 8 has been moved, nor that Doug Adkins was negatively impacted by the audit.               
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Before all this is over the Ohio Bar will have a full detailed report on any attorney with knowledge of this malicious abuse of power you can hide behind the city and point fingers all you want come clean boys.
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Citizens of middletown were mislead to believe that they had to pay a debt or they were going to be terminated off section 8 in Middletown next time Doug do your homework and quit singling out landlords for prosecution on false charges so is there still a MPD section 8 black opps squad or now that section 8 is being given to butler county is the money all gone.
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Middletown Public Housing Agency Meeting Minutes June 29, 2010 complete the abatement, the unit is in violation of HQS standards until the reduction is complete and no HAP payments will be made until the abatement is complete and passes lead based paint clearance is submitted.  F. HQS INSPECTIONS ‐ consider moving initial HQS inspections away from the Inspection Group and have City of Middletown Building Inspectors complete initial HQS inspections.  Pros       Provides a check and balance on lead based  paint law compliance and property   maintenance code compliance  Cons A property can pass the HQS inspection but fail the Int’l Property Maintenance Code Additional load of about 20 inspections per  month on the City Inspector. Mr. Adkins explained that Tom Huiet, City Inspector is certified to do these types of inspections.  He recommends moving the initial inspections away from The Inspection Group and have City inspectors complete initial HQS inspections.  Ms. Scott Jones wanted a breakdown of how much Mr. Huiet would be paid if these were brought in house.  She voiced concerns of needing both The Inspection Group and City Inspectors and stated we should be able to get rid of one.  She asked for a comparison of everything The Inspection Group currently does and a comparison of what would be taken away.  She would rather have somebody in house if they have the expertise.  Discussion ensued.  Ms. Scott Jones asked to see what The Inspection Group is currently doing, what would bringing it in house take away from them and what Mr. Huiet would be paid.  Recommendation: Move the initial inspections away from The Inspection Group and have City of Middletown Building Inspectors complete initial HQS Inspections.  G. TENANTS – There are currently 111 Section 8 tenants that owe the City water bills.  The current policy calls for termination of assistance for participants who violate the family obligations under the program.  The problem in the past has not been with terminating violators, it has been with finding violators and notifying CONSOC of the violation Pros        Cons Middletown Water Billing Dept. will collect past due Section 8 water bills or tenant will be removed from HCV program. Computer scanning already in place to find criminal/ program violations. Discussion ensued regarding Tenant/Landlord responsibilities for water bills.  
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I believe that with all of the lawsuits being filed on the city and MPHA Doug is makingit clear that Judy is the boss the aadministrator of section 8. This would be a creative out for him he is a attorney and has more at stake than a retiring city manager what I would find funny if the Council fired both of them for loosing the MPHA program to butler county that is what needs to be done.
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Did any one else think in Doug's speech that he pretty much threw council and especially Judy under the bus. He said he just does what his boss tells him to do. That's Judy!! Oh well since she's leaving I guess he figured he could throw her under the bus. It might be kind of funny if she fired him before he could become city manager.LOL
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you guys are funny. you read something online or in the paper and decide immediately that is the best candidate. I happen to have some friends in Oxford who say Howington is one who doesn't work well with others and alientates anyone who doesn't agree with her. I don't know anything about the other two candidates from outside but they have both been fired or asked to resign elsewhere.

Now, with that being said is she better than Adkins or Landen? Maybe, who knows? But acting like Howington is the greatest choice based on what she said in an interview is comical. Anyone can look good in an interview.
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Won't surprise me, given past decisions, that they choose either Landen or Adkins......

Will surprise me if they make the correct choice in Howington. If so, I hope she will be strong enough to stand up to the inner power circle of influence. Daunting task to take down what has been in place for so long.

I believe they will keep it all in the family and select one of their own. Howington may not fall in line with the city agenda or, as she will have access, discover some hidden agenda items not meant for public scrutiny and stop some of the internal practices currently in place. Hopefully, given time, she may discover what has been revealed on this forum and some city building residents may be fast tracked on the way out. Let's hope so. We shall see.
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Ms. Howington is the top choice to run the ship!! with les and doug running neck to neck in last place! she would need to kick these 2 to the curb along with marty and the rest of non-qualified gang! no need for judy to stick around, Ms. Howington would be the one training her!! so i see no chance of the main street bosses or the MMF's gang letting her come in from the outside running their ship.IMO 
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Thumbs Up  I second this motion....she is the most qualified of the group
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There is only one candidate whom I am convinced would desire to grow the TAX BASE not the TAX RATE, and that is Ms. Howington in my opinion. 
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