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Acclaro,
By being "more supportive" I did not mean to imply that I would have voted for or helped to get levies passed.  However, if they would've admitted the real problem, as Ms. Adrew did above, I certainly would have been willing to work towards finding answers. Throwing more money in the directions Price was pointing did nothing.
 
As with the city as a whole, if you don't face the real problems, you will never solve them.
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike, I did not mean to imply your movement was leaning towards the position of support for levies, but reinforcing your accurate statement with property decline and less tax collection, we al will be on the hook to make up for the short-fall on the past levy, let alone the new ones around the corner, the vicious cycle just doesn't end.
 
I'd like to think mentoring would help, but the realism in Middletown is, and I say this with sadness and not satire, the city residents and city leadership don't care bout the city, so do you think we could get enough enthusiasm to help uplift the lost souls that cannot even find a job in Middletown? There are none.
 
Who caused the problem? Well, Monroe was a huge hit, but has prospered. Price was useless and a puppet working on "diversity." The city's culpability? Ms. Andrew points to Section 8. Who brought in all those vouchers? Council. Why? To fill the void in overcapacity in housing stock. The result? Students who flounder, who can't read, have no hope, see no purpose, no direction. Aboust as glim as it is for many college grads right now.
 
So the solution would:
 
a) eliminate section 8----paraphrasing Doug Adkins, "steady as she goes", so in 15 years, there will be a reduction
 
b) mentor program- uplift and nurture students? Gladly would participate, but they have no cash, even afford to get to school at $4.00 gallon? No hope. See military as an option but college isn't even on the radar.
 
c) Open Enrollment? No, too many getting out of MCSD than coming in, nice schools and all the rhetoric about Project Kal and others, never panned out. Cincinnati State, MUM, free tuition? Won't happen.
 
d) Vouchers? Sure...all the concerned parents will take the voucher and put Mary and Joey into the catholic system or a private, bye Middletown.
 
e) No traction, spinning the wheels, stuck on CI?
 
My answer is e, and that brings the crumbling around us all, from the city's ineptmess to its affect upon the school system,
 
Others have a solution? Buehler?.......Buehler?   
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Originally posted by Marcia Andrew Marcia Andrew wrote:

Vet, in my first post on this thread, I stated that 4 assistant principals were among those RIF'd. That leaves assistant principals only at the high school (1800 students) and Vail (800 students). There are no "assistants to the assistants"; I don't know what you are talking about. And no, the school district is not top-heavy with administrators. The school district is a large operation with approximately $90 million in revenue from many different funding sources coming in and being spent; approximately 750 employees (full and part-time). Can't run a business that size without some operational people handling purchasing, accounts payable and receivables, compliance with all the state and federal laws, etc., and management and leadership. See my response to Tony for part of the role of central office in aligning teaching methods and substance. You need an HR function. You need buildings & maintenance functions.
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Ms. Alberico's salary is more in the range of $65,000, not $98,000. And her job involved far more than giving quotes to the Journal (although she does respond to requests from the media almost every single day).  She also is the person who responds to public records requests, is the central point for all questions and complaints from students, parents, community, media, whomever, either finding an answer directly or directing the inquiry to the person with knowledge/responsibility.  Multiple requests every day. She writes newsletters and other communications to parents and taxpayers about what is going on with the public schools.  She keeps the website current. These are just some of her job responsibilities, there are others.  Similarly, someone has to be in charge of technology when you have hardware and software in 12 buildings, internal and external networks.  Both operational software and educational software.  Doesn't maintain itself.


Ms. Andrew, please see the post from jssmith2011 listed below. If the information he has provided is accurate, please explain as this information is in direct contrast to what you have stated about being top heavy, assistants to the assistants and being a multi-layer system, not to mention the exhorbantant salaries. Could you also address the discipline/behavioral issues mentioned by Bill and others. Perhaps you could tell us why the district didn't develop an alternative program (after being intimidated through the legal system by parents of the thugs and removing corporal punishment) to combat the behavior of the new type of "rogue" student the schools must try to educate nowadays.
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Not to dispute jsmith's version because he sounds like an insider who knows what's going on.....but I've heard that those library positions are a piece of cake.  Not disputing they were accredited, etc. but there just wasn't a heck of a lot to do in those jobs when the kids weren't actually in the library.

As for all the "Director of this" and "Assis Dir of That", I imagine there a lot more staff required than 20 years when you take into account all the federal and state reporting and testing requirements, not to mention issues with disabled kids, issues regarding modern technology (certainly more of this than 20 years ago), and probably more financial issues to track than 20 years ago.  I do wonder, with new buildings and the outsourcing of food service and bussing, why there is a need for all the facilities people.  I'm not saying jsmith isn't correct, but I'm guessing the MCSD will claim that they have many burdensome obligations that necessitate these people.
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Dealing with the kids notwithstanding, saying that there is no work to do in a library when kids aren't around is disingenuous. You are in charge of a room full of inventory, many thousands of unique items that are constantly being removed from their proper location and possibly taken off site. They have to be kept in a very specific order to ensure that they can be easily located for future use. Additionally you have new product arriving periodically that has to be categorized and put into the system, marked and filed away properly. And at any given time you need to know exactly what items that belong to the library are currently checked out, who has them and for how long. The logistics alone are a fair bit of work.

Can volunteers be trained to do this work? Sure. As well as the accredited librarians that were doing the job? Nope. The libraries will still operate but at a decreased level of efficiency and effectiveness.

My questions, that maybe Mrs. Andrew could respond to since she's been reading and posting in this thread:
  • What is the plan to get the library volunteers trained to perform the job while minimizing as much as possible any losses in effectiveness of the library?
  • What will be the vetting process for selecting the library volunteers? Will it be any random parent or person off the street who steps up? Will there be any kind of educational requirement (such as "has a high school diploma or equivalent")?
  • What kind of background check will be performed to ensure we aren't letting a predator into our schools?
  • What kind of youth protection training will be given to ensure that the volunteer understands proper practices and procedures in both protecting the kids from abuse (and themselves from false abuse claims) and also recognizing signs of and reporting suspected abuse?
  • Will all of this be required to be completed prior to starting the volunteer position?
  • What kind of funding has been allocated to do all of this? Was this cost factored into the overall savings plan generated by cutting the librarian positions?
I do not envy the school board, even something as small as replacing elementary school librarians with volunteers is not as easy a proposition as most people think it would be. And I only was looking at logistics and background checks...that doesn't even take into account programming such as featured books and/or subjects of the month, or related to current events, trends or fads, book clubs or other functions that are being done currently.
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A somewhat related side thought/question regarding Highview and volunteers (not directed specifically to Mrs. Andrew):

Currently the PTO at Highview is trying to empty out the bank accounts completely as the elementary school will no longer be an elementary after this school year. But won't there still be a need for a PTO with Highview as a 6th grade center next year? Seems like instead of spending all the money they should be planning on keeping at least some of it as seed money to roll over to next year.
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The "alternative" program for mentoring, etc. has already been tried and failed. Garfield Alternative Education Center opened in the early 90's with a huge grant from the state. It was located down on Yankee because they didn't want the students who were expelled and suspended from the high school to be on the same campus. The school ended up housing drug dealers and criminals. The district decided it was too expensive to run so they closed it and bulldozed the building. This was a building that they sold and bought back.

The A+ program was in that building and moved to the Manchester Building. So the issue of having those expelled and suspended off campus must not be an issue at this time.

The school district decided that they needed an "alternative" program for the high school students to pass the OGT so now they opened the Success Academy in the Manchester Building. It has almost the exact same staff that were at Garfield.

It wasn't successful once but let's try it again with the same people......
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I appreciate an open and polite dialogue.  I started posting on this site a few years ago as a way to share information beyond the standard channels.  I will try to answer most everyone's questions, but please be patient as it may take several days. You all have raised a lot of issues and I do have a day job. 
 
RANDY: Is there anyway to change the name of this thread? It's not really about Monroe schools anymore, but I don't want to start a new thread because I'll be answering many posts on this thread.
 
Tony asked about mainstreaming versus classes separated by abilities.  That is a rich topic and one where the experts have shifted their thinking. Now, the "best practice" is to have classes with mixed abilities in grade school and for the most part in 7-12, except for advanced/honors classes.  There are pros and cons for either model, and I personally view the issue from both ends, as my 3 kids range from significant cognitive disability to gifted. My oldest spent days bored to tears while the teacher re-taught basics to kids who should not have been placed in advanced math--so there, you did have separation by ability, but not implemented well. If you do segment by ability, you will have a lot of pressure from parents to put their kids in a higher level. The kids all know what the groupings mean, and there is some amount of self-prophesy. If you label a kid as dumb, he will believe he is dumb and can't learn, so why even try? Then, sure enough, he will remain underachieving.  I do believe that we need to push ALL students to achieve at the highest level possible, but I am not sure separate classes by ability is the best way to get there.
 
Federal law does require "mainstreaming," to a certain extent.  It is called "full inclusion" now, and what it means is that for students identified with a disability, with an Individual Education Plan ("IEP"), they are entitled to be educated in the least restrictive environment. For most kids, this means being fully included in a classroom with typically developing students, with an aide if necessary/appropriate and various supports.  For some students, their needs are so severe or disruptive that they are taught in "self-contained" classrooms of just other kids with IEPs. But, the majority of kids with special needs are included in regular classrooms. Special ed teachers, tutors,  speech therapists, etc may work one on one or in small groups with the child part of the day.  One of the reasons for this federal rule of inclusion is that research has shown that kids with special needs do better and achieve more if they are placed with typically developing peers. It is also much better for their social and behavioral development.
 
For the rest of the kids who are not on an IEP, but their abilities vary, the model recommended by educational experts is to differentiate instruction to the different levels in the classroom.  Everyone may be learning about the science of rocks (can anyone remember the 3 different types of rock, and how they are formed?), but at different levels of detail and depth and with different expected deliverables to demonstrate they have learned what is being taught. One student may be working on putting a coherent paragraph together, for example, while the brightest kids is challenged with extra research and writing a 3 page paper.  Often it requires lots of small group and individual projects coordinated and overseen by the teacher, rather than the teacher lecturing to 25 kids and then having them all complete the same worksheet.  Since, as you point out, this is not the way it was done 20 or 30 years ago, learning how to differentiate instruction and do it well is something many experienced teachers had to learn as a new skill.  They may have been terrific at teaching to the whole class the old way, but this wouldn't work as well given the realities of the new class composition.  Even younger teachers right out of teaching school may not have been taught well how to differentiate their instruction.  This is another example of the type of resource that the central office administrators provide (those curriculum coordinators, specialists and consultants mentioned in other posts). 
 
The students who are performing above grade level can be asked to help with some of their peers who are struggling with the concept. This helps the more advanced student internalize what he has learned more concretely when he has to explain it to a classmate, and it builds confidence and leadership skills. It also helps the struggling student, who gets some extra attention, and may pay more attention to a peer than an adult.
 
Tony, I am not an educational expert, although I have read alot about these issues. There is no black/white answer for what is the right way to group students, but I have tried to explain the current situation.
 
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Originally posted by Marcia Andrew Marcia Andrew wrote:

... can anyone remember the 3 different types of rock...? ...
Punk rock, Acid rock, and Rock 'n' Roll???  LOL LOL LOL
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Sorry, but I always was the "class clown"!!! Clown
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Acclaro, I agree with you that one of the strategies that has been shown by experience to work is intense one on one mentoring of at-risk, low-performing students. Very hard to duplicate on a large scale without large numbers of adults, either paid school employees or community volunteers.  A teacher can make that difference in the life of a few students at a time. Very difficult to make that difference for all 28 students in the class.
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Ground swat, I don't have numbers in front of me on number of arrests and expulsions at the high school last year.  There are a large number of arrests.  To some extent, this results from having a police officer ("school resource officer") on site.  SRO's are a big help in preventing incidents, but when something happens, like a fight between students, they tend to see it as a crime and make an arrest. That's their job.  If there was not an SRO on site, it might be handled by an assistant principal in a different manner, where his job is to ensure the building is run in a safe and orderly manner to facilitate the education of students.  Another way to look at the large number of arrests is as proof that violence is not tolerated and action is taken.
 
I will have to check, but I do not believe that it is true that there were no expulsions, although I can see how the police officers might not know about it if there were.  In a serious incident, what usually happens is an immediate suspension with a recommendation for expulsion.  Then, there is a hearing because the student is entitled by law to due process. Only after that hearing would the expulsion happen, if the that was the result. But the result of the hearing would not generally be public knowledge and I doubt the arresting officer would be amongst the people told of the decision.
 
There is a tension between needing to maintain a safe learning environment for all students, and needing to educate all students.  Students who are expelled are not learning, and the dropout rate is one of the indicators on the state report card for the district.  Students who are suspended are not learning, unless they are sent to the A+ program you (or someone else) referenced which is an in-school suspension.  That keeps them away from other students (I think there is even a staggered start and end time for their school day so they are not out in the halls when all the other students are), but they are still learning, in fact they are required to work more intensely than they would in the regular classrooms because of the lower ratio. 
 
When you think about it, expelling a kid is not a very effective form of discipline. You have a kid who does not want to be in school, does not care to learn anything. He/she may already have a history of tardies and truancies and the parent(s) won't or can't change that pattern.  So he/she acts out to get thrown out of school. Suspending or expelling that kid gives him/her exactly what they want--no school, no effort.  That consequence does not teach the kid not to fight.  Rather, it teaches the kids to get into fights as a ticket to getting out of school.  For you or me, getting expelled might  have triggered consequences at home that would make you never want to do the same thing again. But for many of these kids who are already getting into trouble frequently, their home life or lack there of may actually be part of the problem. For some of these kids, the best thing for them is to spend as little time at home as possible. In-school suspension is a fairly good solution to this tension.  So, sometimes what happens is, instead of an expulsion, the student is allowed to return to school but only after agreeing to do certain things that the school otherwise might not have the power to require. (like counseling, or AA, or making restitution, to name just a few examples).
 
Also, if the student involved is on an IEP, federal law limits the consequences that the school district can impose.
 
I also believe it is true that a relatively small number of repeat offenders accounts for the vast majority of incidents/arrests.  My son has been at the high school for 3 years, at Vail the 2 years before that, and never once felt unsafe or threatened.  I think the perception in the community of what the school day is like at the high school is very different than the reality.
 
So, are there fewer incidents per 100 students at Fenwick or Monroe, or does the media just not report on it as much? Fenwick is private so the media can't force them to disclose discipline records. They don't have an SRO so they wouldn't have an arrest unless the principal called the police to the school, but I doubt that means students never fight.  Monroe had that kid last year who raped and robbed a lady.  I don't mean to smear those schools, my only point is there is no perfectly safe cocoon to send your kid to school in.
 
Middletown High is a much larger school than Monroe or Fenwick and as a result can offer many more class options and more extra curricular choices.  More AP classes, and MUM is right across the street to take courses for college credit.  Middies are in the GMC in Division I, much more competitive level of sports.  Another positive of Middletown is its diversity. Approx. 35% African American and mixed race, and the kids seem to get along with and respect kids from other races. In the real world, we have to interact with people from other races and other socio-economic backgrounds, and going to a diverse high school better prepares a kid for that reality.
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Originally posted by Mike_Presta Mike_Presta wrote:

Originally posted by Marcia Andrew Marcia Andrew wrote:

... can anyone remember the 3 different types of rock...? ...
Punk rock, Acid rock, and Rock 'n' Roll???  LOL LOL LOL
 
Mr. Presta,
 
You only got 2 out of 3 correct here. The answer "Rock and Roll" is incorrect because it is the entire rock and not just a type. The correct answer would have been "Progressive rock"; however, I can understand how you would have missed that one. Being a "Tea Party Republican",  you probably couldn't even bring yourself to think, let alone type the word "progressive"!!!  lmao
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Mr. Presta,
      Go stand in the corner and be prepared to stay after school. 66 is not a passing grade.
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Originally posted by Paul Nagy Paul Nagy wrote:

Mr. Presta,
      Go stand in the corner and be prepared to stay after school. 66 is not a passing grade.
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Thiis was part of my strategy!!!  I always started every school year in a mediocre manner.  That gave me plenty of room to show "continuous improvement" throughout the school year without expending much effort!!! Big%20smile
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Mike,
    Why didn't you say so before. You can come out of the corner now. Strategy, mediocrity, "continuous improvement, without  expending much effort has become the pattern for the last twenty years. You have learned well. You have earned your diploma. Press on!
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Ms. Andrews, again thank you for taking the time to address questions that have been asked. Going off the original topic happens quite often on this site but I do believe the intention of most of the posters is to figure out why there is such a large gap in the way the citizens see things happening in this town compared to the Admin. I planned on calling you and our new supt. to discuss our (wife) concerns.  I am a grad. from this school system who went off to college, actually got a job in the field I studied in and lived outside of this city for 15 years.  When we moved back it didn't take very long to discover that this was a different town and it wasn't all positve. For the last 14 years I have been asked to help give more of my hard earned money towards several different issues dealing with schools,safety and taxes. I truly I have not seen the benefits.  The thread began with cuts and pay decreases which I don't really know is needed but I will say I will not vote yes for any other levy's. I see the school system without a doubt being folded into the city governments problems which is not fair but it's the reality that faces this system. The "Haves" supporting the "Have Nots" which is a state and federal problem. I do now understand a little better how the system handles "trouble makers" and yes all schools have this problem but I for one am sick of having to adjust my world around unfit parents and a system that keeps giving third and fourth chances to people who just don't give a damn. Trust me when I call our private school they don't always look forward to what I have to say about efficiency or child behavior. Many times I still wonder what I'm paying for. Thank you again for your response and time.  
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groundswat - you make an interesting point. The decisions of our city government do have negative effect on the school system and the taxpayers who support both. The economic downturns and inefficient use of resources have put the school system in a position that few other systems face. It looks as if every municipality around us is growing and we are not. We have a disproportionate Section 8 population and property values are declining at an alarming rate. That is a challenge for the city government to solve. Until then, the school system will have to do the best they can.
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As Mr. Presta put it so well "What a Mess" childern having childern, poeple who have No interest in getting a job because the so called "Haves" take care of them, And one mucked up council about 12 years ago FLOODING our town with section 8 housing. Try to have a conversation with someone in town and 90% of the time the school system gets mentioned along with our local governments issues. Still, there is hope and just like today you wake up eat your problems with toast and go to work to try and make a difference. These issues are nation wide and would take a long day and a 12pack to talk about, I just hope it doesn't rain today! 
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JSmith--

I am not going to explain the job function of every non-teacher in the district. I will address the changes and cuts in administration> You are correct, there are currently 8 directors in charge of 8 departments. 2 directors (technology and communications) are being RIF'd and will not be replaced. 1 (Susan Combs, director of student services) is retiring. The new position that you saw advertised will replace her, but will have different functions. Central office will be restructured to have a total of 6 departments. Student services will not be a separate department, but those responsibilities will be covered by others, primarily the dept of learning. (btw, one of the main functions of student services is special ed). So, next school year, there will be 6 directors in charge of 6 depts.

it is true that the Sr Dir of Learning was hired to cover the responsibilities of the prior Asst Superintendent, who retired. Lesser title and lower pay range, but the work still needed to be done.

Data specialists and data managers are required by -- and paid by -- restricted grant money. They don't "crunch numbers to make the data look good." High stakes testing has led to multiple benchmark tests throughout the year to track how well the students are learning. It makes sense to find out while we can still fix it, what has been learned and what has not. Data managers analyze all the test answers to help teachers figure out what interventions are needed. For example, if 5% of the kids in one 4th grade class missed all the questions about multiplying fractions, the teacher would want to help those few kids with the concept. If 90% missed it, however, the teacher needs to figure out a different way to reteach it to the whole class. If 80% of all 4th graders in the whole school missed multiplying fractions, then perhaps there is a larger issue that needs to be addressed. If the data managers were not doing this work, it would fall on the teachers, who are already being asked to do more than ever before. plus, cutting them wouldn't save any money, as the grant money they are paid with would go away.

The football coach is not an attendance "clerk" (there is a clerk and it is an hourly position). His job is not to record tardies and absences, but to actively intervene with the students and their families to solve the problem and get the kids in class. This is an administrative function, and a football coach is ideally suited to provide the level of authority and intimidation often required.

The district engaged in a thorough, thoughtful budget process to identifying positions to cut, starting with each department re-examining each position and other opportunities for cost savings. Input was requested and received from teachers, staff and community members to help set priorities. Particular attention was paid to the views of the principals. There was quite a bit of information presented at school board meetings over several months about the budget deficit we are facing and the process we went through to decide how to solve the problem.

The following positions have been cut (as of the end of this school year): 2 directors, 4 assistant principals, 1 principal, 1 student facilitator, 1 librarian, 5 library managers, 1 counselor, 4 attendants, 4 custodians, 8 secretaries, 1 print shop and 5 monitors. There will be teacher positions cut, but we are waiting until we know how many teachers take the early retirement option. We are hopeful these will balance out and we won't have to fire any teachers.

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Middletown scouter,

As a school board member, I do not micromanage the process of covering the functions of the library managers. I can tell you that you are correct, the plan is to handle this with volunteers. Each building may have a different approach. All volunteers with the potential to have one to one contact with kids must pass a criminal background check. It will not be easy but it is do-able. John 23 has had an all-volunteer library for years.

You are also correct about the difficulty of the task we face. Everyone wants us to reduce our expenses, but the minute we suggest cutting a position, someone wants to say, no not them!
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Middletown scouter, each school's PTO is a separate nonprofit organization, and they are independent of the school system so I can't speak for them. But, consider that the money raised by the Highview PTO was raised with the belief and intent that it be spent for the benefit of that K-5 building. Not for the 6th graders of the whole district.
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Bill, I agree that the reputations of the high school and middle school are not helping us. We are making some major changes. Putting all 6th graders in a 6th grade center and not with 7th and 8th gives us the opportunity to make some program changes and set new expectations. There will also be changes at the high school.

We could use some help with people not spreading false rumors (like the one about the gun incidents that never occurred). If you or anyone hears about something, please call the school or a board member to find out what really happened or is going on before you start talking about it as the truth. Even posting it online as a question is harmful because so many people believe everything they read and don't distinguish fact and opinion.

You and several others addressed alternative ed. It is true that Garfield was closed, because it was not effective at either changing behaviors or graduating those students. We now have in place a range of programs.

I discussed the A+ program in another post. That is a response to disciplinary incidents.

For more severely disruptive students, we pay for placement in county-run programs. The most violent end up in juvenile detention centers (jail).

The Success Academy serves 120 10-12th graders and is housed in the Manchester Building (on the grounds of the high school). It is for kids who are at risk of dropping out either because they have already failed more than one class, or truancy or being disruptive in class. It is not a replacement for Garfield; it is not the same subset of students and it is a different method of instruction. The student has to be willing to put the effort in. Students work through course material with computer programs and have to pass tests to move on to the next unit. Many students work through the classes faster and can then make up credit for courses previously failed, and get back on grade level. Many graduate early. The teachers are there to help with questions, keep them on track, and help deal with all the other issues most of them are facing. Each student is assigned a mentor. There is a work component and the counselors help them plan for the future. This program has been very successful. A typical student would be a teenage mother who otherwise would have dropped out of school and been on welfare. THrough this program, she gets her high school degree and often moves on to MUM or to a technical degree program of some kind.

The Freshman Academy is modeled on the Success Academy but is for just 9th graders and intended to ease the transition to high school for the most at risk 8th graders. Some move on to Success Academy while others transition to the regular high school classes.

Vet, you imply that the elimination of corporal punishment was a choice by the school district. It was not. The courts have decided that it is illegal. I have posted that information several times here and you keep bringing it up. Suggesting remedies that are illegal and therefore unavailable is simply not helpful.
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Ms. Andrew - thanks for your posts here. I have a question about property that the school board might own. I'm thinking specifically of the Roosevelt property and the old Jefferson Elementary property. What plans are there for these properties?

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