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Council Agenda 7-03-2012 |
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greygoose 
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Joined: May 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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 Posted: Jul 04 2012 at 7:53pm |
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Well said LMAO.... I too liked the questions that Mrs. Scott Jones was asking. The more I see of this proposed project, the more unattractive it becomes. It appears to be a pet project and the city has so many other, more pressing, issues.
Wow.... it seem strange making such a statement. 
On the other hand.... I'm about to rent a backhoe & operator and put in a bid to install the conduit. Is it just me or does that cost seem "way high" to others as well. GG |
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"If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got"
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LMAO
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Joined: Oct 28 2009 Location: Middletucky Status: Offline Points: 468 |
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Posted: Jul 04 2012 at 5:33pm |
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The issue with the lights on Main Street is IMO is nothing more then what our good ole Mayor and Kohler wants.They talk about they have 60% of people that want them.Well why not poll the whole city not just the ones on Main Street?I mean IF it happens the WHOLE cityis going to be paying for them.I posted not to long ago,Me,Myself and I went down on Main Street and talked to 10 residents.Out of the 10 I believe it was 2 that was okay with it.The others said that they dont have the money cos they was living on a fixed income.IMO,the 60% they say they have is hog washed.I like to say a big thank you to Mrs.Scott Jones cos she seems to be the only one on Council that wants to know where the money is going to come from to fund something that only a few is going to benefit from it.Ms Mulligan I like to ask the same Question Mr.Vet asked.Who the hell are you? Are you married to one of the Mulligan Boys?Why should "US" peons pay for your fancy A$$ Lights?I like to know or see the "SO called bushes or shrubbery that is blocking the sidewalk?"Let the city send a letter to the owner to take care of it, if not send there "BOYS" after them.You say that you and others have been told 30 years now you will get your fancy A$$ lights,well guess what,you want them pay for them.How dare you and the rest of the Mulligan Klan ask us Penos to pay for them.Also you mentioned that your "GROUP" paid for the Fountain in the park,If someone looked deep enough I'd bet the city helped in someway.Do you pay for the water that goes in the fountain?I say no,but I have been known to be wrong a time or two.Also,you say there are abanded houses on Main Street? Only one I know of is the Sorg Mansion.Again I might be wrong.Again,just Echoing what Vet said,What makes your neighborhood better then the one I live in?Is it special cos the "MAYOR" lives there,or cos Kohler lives there?
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VietVet
MUSA Council 
Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Posted: Jul 04 2012 at 3:17pm |
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Last night we were told several times that South Main Street needed the new light fixtures for safety reasons to illuminate the side walk area in front of their homes.
THE CURRENT LIGHT FIXTURES ARE SUFFICIENT. AS SUGGESTED, AS PART OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, AND AS WOULD BE EXPECTED BY ANY HOMEOWNER IN ANY PART OF TOWN, CUT DOWN THE SHRUBBERY THAT IS BLOCKING THE LIGHT AND IMPROVE THE SAFETY ISSUE MENTIONED. NEW LIGHTS ARE NOT THE ANSWER TO MORE LIGHT IF TREES AND BUSHES ARE BLOCKING SAID LIGHT. THIS IS A PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN THE REASONS FOR THE NEWER, FANCIER, MORE COSTLY LIGHTS. INSTALLATION OF SEARCH LIGHTS WILL NOT HELP WITH SAFETY LIGHTING IF THE TREES AND BUSHES ARE IN THE WAY. MERCY. Ms Mulligan also stated that some areas of the South Main Street Historic District had vacant property with overgrown hedges and grass that blocked their veiw while walking in the evenng WHO IN THE HELL DOES MS MULLIGAN THINK SHE IS? "BLOCKING THEIR VIEW WHILE WALKING IN THE EVENING"? HOW TRITE. WHAT A SELF-ABSORBED INDIVIDUAL THIS WOMAN MUST BE. LADY, YOUR DAM AREA IS NO MORE SPECIAL THAN THE AREAS THE REST OF US ARE LIVING IN. GET OFF OF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND REALIZE YOU ARE NO MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE REST OF US. GOD, I HATE SELF-IMMERSED PEOPLE.
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council
Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: Jul 04 2012 at 10:37am |
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Lighting on South Main Street.
Is this project a want or a need? Last night we were told several times that South Main Street needed the new light fixtures for safety reasons to illuminate the side walk area in front of their homes. They now have cobra style street lights like many other older areas of town. The problem isn’t with the cobra light fixture the problem is the large mature trees in front of these properties that block the spead of light from the cobra fixtures onto the sidewalk. If in fact it is a safty issue then the residents need to cut down the large trees that are blocking the light from the sidewalk. Ms Mulligan also stated that some areas of the South Main Street Historic District had vacant property with overgrown hedges and grass that blocked their veiw while walking in the evenng. If this is an area of concern she needs to call Mr. Adkins office and have the City clean up the vacant property. I believe all homes that are located in a historic district receive a special tax credits every year so that would help off set some of the cost. I don’t remember what the original agreement was with the city but in all fairness the 70-80 homes in the historic district should be responsible for the entire cost of this new lighting project. Because some of these homes are very large and some are very small the cost should have been calculated by frontage, number of light fixtures and footage of conduit per property. The new fixture will cost 4 times more per year to operate therefore in all fairness the tax payers should not be responsible for any of this nstallation cost. Duke Energy.....$130,000 Conduit.................$137,204 TOTAL $267,204 It is my opinion that this entire project needs to go back to the drawing board. |
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ground swat
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Posted: Jul 03 2012 at 8:17pm |
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Let's do it but we really don't know how much it cost! Middletowns new motto. Of course it's not new, this leadership is a JOKE!
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council
Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Posted: Jul 03 2012 at 7:32am |
Also, the City seems to think that we taxpayers have UNLIMITED resources!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta
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Posted: Jul 03 2012 at 7:30am |
As with the Public Safety tax, money like this seems to get "tucked away into one of our other accounts" and is never seen again until some pet project for the "right" people needs a big wad of dough, when it gets "re-un-allocated".
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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VietVet
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Posted: Jul 02 2012 at 7:48pm |
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Mike P...
"I wonder how quickly we would get railroaded if, say, I or Spiderjohn or VietVet owned the building???" "I wonder if they would accept "not having the resources" as a valid excuse???" You, the Spider and the Vet are too intelligent to purchase a building that has no potential future sale, is in a poor location, needs more rehab costs than can be recouped through resale, has no apparent use and probably would be better knocked down. Apparently the city wanted to play the fool and purchase it for ......what? A valid excuse for no resources? I'm sure we would be ok Mike. After all, the city thinks of us as friends, particularly with our history of comments on this forum. 
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spiderjohn
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Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Posted: Jul 02 2012 at 7:37pm |
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Is the millage listed in the ordinance pertaining to the Senior Center levy the same as requested, or is the city adding to that request?
Will all proceeds from this issue go to the Senior Center, or is the city piggy-backing a share on top of the request? Just asking........
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council
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Posted: Jul 02 2012 at 6:15pm |
According to the minutes of the HISTORIC COMMISSION meeting included in the workbook, the Commission has decided NOT to cite the City into their Kangaroo Court even though the leaking roof in this historic structure is causing severe damage to the structure. (They say that the City “not have the resources to restore the building” right now.) I wonder how quickly we would get railroaded if, say, I or Spiderjohn or VietVet owned the building??? I wonder if they would accept "not having
the resources" as a valid excuse???
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta
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Posted: Jul 02 2012 at 6:07pm |
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According to a report in this week’s City
Council workbook, the City does not have the money to maintain their property
on S. Main Street, the former Rose Furniture building, but we have $1.1 MILLION
unallocated in the General Fund RIGHT NOW!!! |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council
Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: Jul 02 2012 at 4:37pm |
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, I. BUSINESS MEETING – 1. MOMENT OF MEDITATION/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 2. ROLL CALL 3. PUBLIC HEARING – Street Lighting Improvements on 4. CITIZEN COMMENTS 5. CITY MANAGER REPORTS 6. CONSENT AGENDA. . . Matters listed under the Consent Agenda are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion and one vote of consent. There will be no separate discussion of these items. If discussion is desired, that item will be removed and considered separately. (a) Approve City Council Minutes: (b) Receive and File Board and Commission Minutes: Board of Zoning Appeals- MidPointe Library System Board of Trustees-April 17, 2012 & Planning Commission- Historic Commission- Park Board-June 4, 2012 Middletown Public Housing Agency – (c) Receive and file Oaths of Offices: Edmund Wayne Birch, Matthew Eisenbraun, Shirley Jones (d) Approve Board and Commission Appointment: Ronnie Choudhary-MidPointe Library System Board of Trustees (e) Confirm Personnel Transaction: Appointment: Dispatcher – Casie Hall (f) Proclamation: July 13-15 – MidUSA 7. MOTION AGENDA (a) Authorize a contract with AST Environmental, Inc. for soil remediation at (b) Authorize a contract with Central Insulation Systems, Inc. for asbestos abatement at (c) 1. Resolution No. R2012-16, a resolution declaring it necessary to levy a tax in excess of the ten mill limitation for the purpose to supplement the General Fund for the purpose of making appropriations for providing or maintaining senior citizens services and/or facilities as set forth in the Ohio Revised Code Section 5705.19(Y) and determining to proceed to submit the question of levying such tax to the electors of the City of Middletown, Ohio, at the election on November 6, 2012, in accordance with Section 5705.19(Y) of the Ohio Revised Code. (Second 2. Ordinance No. O2012-23, an ordinance establishing a procedure for and authorizing an agreement between the City and Commerce Corner, LLC and COM-HLL Corp. of certain real property and declaring an emergency. 3. Resolution No. R2012-17, a resolution authorizing the City Manager to participate in the Moving Ohio Forward Grant Program. (Second 4. Ordinance No. O2012-24, an ordinance authorizing a Memorandum of Understanding with the Butler County Land Reutilization Corporation for the cooperative acquisition and banking of non productive real property in Middletown. (Second 5. Ordinance No. O2012-25, an ordinance establishing a procedure for and authorizing a contract with 6. Resolution No. R2012-18, a resolution to make adjustments to appropriations for current expenses and other expenditures of the City of Middletown, Counties of Butler and Warren, State of Ohio, for the period ending December 31, 2012 and declaring an emergency. (East End & Downtown Fund) 7. Resolution No. R2012-19, a resolution declaring the intent of the Middletown City Council to support uniform provisions in City tax ordinances. (First |
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