AIN'T NO WAY!!!!!!!!

That may be your best statement in a post Mr. Murray, but it does look bad.

I can neither prove, nor disprove...but neither can you.  The thing that concerns me is that everyone on this blog is feeding off of one another when no one (admittedly, including myself) has all of the information.  So to be making accusations of back door dealing is both premature and irresponsible, in my opinion.

Murray - I can't even believe you would say this was ethical.  I would love to know your real name because your statements really show what type of person you are.  I am sure all of us are speculating who you are, I have my opinion of who you are -  which does explain to me why you would think this was handled ethically.

Is it unethical...no!! Is it right hell no!! If council had known all the facts then they could have voted accordingly, but they did not have that info. Now you can say what you want about he courts, had council voted it down then the courts could have hired him anyway and it would have been done with out the council's approval and then we as citizens we see that a new council has taken over and wont just rubber stamp everything in front of them.

Is it unethical?  No one has any information other than what was in the paper.  Everyone wants it to be unethical so that there is something to gripe about and entertain everyone for a day or two. 

Murray- Don't know who you are but you sound like you come from the problem children camp located at the city building. FYI, we are all private citizens away from the job site. However, when one occupys a municipal court position, or any fed, state, or city government job, they come under the scrutiny of the public and therefore incur the mercy/wrath of the public. If Schiavone chooses to work in a government position, he is a target for scrutiny. The comments that have been made here are published facts and are in the public domain of information. It is not slanderous to state what is public record and to state what the man actually did on previous jobs. The Municipal Court is a public entity. The judges are elected by the voting public. The whole court system is public domain INCLUDING the taxpayer funded employees. If Schiavone is now an employee, he is in the public domain.

The $5000 pay is not the point. No one ever said that the salary was the issue. The alleged "back door" hiring, council not being given all the information to make a decision on approving the position, whether Schiavone is qualified, the need for emergency legislation by Landen and the convenience of the hiring are the issues. Council may have no say in the appointment of the judicial employee but they certainly had a say in whether the position should have even existed. They could have denied this request. If they would have known it was Schiavone, and all the improprieties it presents in giving him the job, all of this may have not happened at all.

You only see this as a Schiavone hiring disaster. It is much bigger than that. This fiasco is an example of the bigger picture of the games being played by the childish leaders of this town. It is much more serious than just a Schiavone meal ticket and favoritism/council nepotism. It is the special little group of insiders that have, once again, backdoored the citizens by taking care of one of their own in a secretive manner that is not above board and should not be tolerated anymore. There is nothing wrong with AJ and Josh checking on the ordinances to see if this could be recinded and made right. At the very least, they will learn something in the process. It does not hurt to call them on this.

As to conspiracy- the city leaders do their best to do things in this town to promote the feeling of conspiracy. If they were honest, communicated openly with the people, assigned all their buddies to committees/key positions in town and stopped all of this closed door session crap, we, the people, wouldn't be thinking conspiracies all the time. Until they change, we have no choice but to think that way. We have a life, bud, and part of it is to monitor the underhanded schemes that your low-life buddies are always trying to lay on the citizens of this town.

Illegal - probably not, but what happened was very unethical. 

The fact of the matter is this Josh, there is absolutely no law that says the Court has to go to the council with this matter at all.  The court does it out of courtesy to the council.  If they wanted to circumvent council all together, they could do so without any issue. 

Murray,

I'm not sure who you are... but I know you're a moron. That comment by tomahawk is in no way slanderous. Maybe someone should have bought you a dictionary for Christmas.

And as far as anyone being "risking legal action", well.... DUH. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. I can sue you because I don't like your haircut and it causes me emotional distress. That doesn't mean it's a valid lawsuit and that the courts won't throw it out immediately.

Take a hike Murray, no one is listening to your BS.

tomahawk35 wrote: Don't forget the 50ks that he conned to open a 6 month BBQ joint that went under. Also has anyone ever found out what the law suits were about and if there was ever any outcome. Yea I will feel better knowing that if the power goes down that he is leading the charge. Can you say generator?

Murray, welcome to the site, glad to have one more opinion in the mix. But I must say your stance sounds like one of someone that is very close to the situation. I do agree that there are people fleeing the city and unemployment is super high. So with all these people out of work why was this job not put out for anyone to apply? Why just hand it to David? Is he really the most qualified? It seems very funny and you know it.

 

If people are joining the site to state their opinion on this thread and tell others to “get a life” then we must be on point about something and getting under someone’s skin. And for the record there are no slanderous comments being made here, if you believe there are, please point them out and I will take the proper action.